Space-watchers say China is still doing whatever it started doing last month with two close-flying satellites in orbit. And that's keeping outside observers worried about the fact that Chinese officials have not yet actually said what it is they're doing.
The maneuvers, which appear to involve rendezvous operations between the SJ-06F satellite and the more recently launched SJ-12 craft, could amount to practice for space station dockings or coordinated satellite observations from orbit. Few folks would have a problem with that. But they also could be aimed at developing the expertise for lurking near someone else's satellte and eavesdropping, or even knocking that satellite out of commission in the event of a crisis. That's the worrisome part.
The formation-flying exercise began in mid-August, and stirred up a significant fuss a couple of weeks ago when some observers speculated that the SJ-12 might have given a nudge to the SJ-06F. China says the satellites in the SJ series (SJ stands for "Shijian," or "Practice" in Chinese) are designed for scientific purposes, but space experts suspect that they actually are being used for military surveillance.
Amateur satellite observers around the world say the two spacecraft are still flying close together, a month after the maneuvers began. The U.S. military's tracking data have shown that they're separated by about half a mile (1 kilometer), NBC News analyst James Oberg noted in an e-mail. "This close-in relative position requires positive control — thruster firings — and onboard navigation to determine how to direct the steering jets," Oberg said.
Back in August, the U.S. Strategic Command confirmed that there were "two satellites in close proximity with each other" but said it could not confirm "if they have made physical contact."
Now Oberg passes along a new Defense Department statement, which says both less and more at the same time:
"Orbital analysts at the Joint Space Operations Center are still tracking both objects and continue to monitor them for conjunctions as part of their routine conjunction screenings for all active satellites. Providing specific details on position/proximity would move into classified and/or sensitive information."
The statement signals that the Pentagon will no longer be discussing the satellites or whether there's a chance that they could collide with each other (in a conjunction). Such details are now considered "classified and/or sensitive information."
If there are any future conflicts between technologically advanced nations, one of the battlefronts could well be in outer space. China sparked a debate over the potential for "space war" in 2007 when it sent up a missile to knock down one of its own satellites in 2007. Beijing didn't confirm the existence of that space maneuver until nearly two weeks after it occurred. A year later, it was China's turn to express concern when the Pentagon conducted its own satellite-downing operation.
The United States and Russia have been conducting orbital rendezvous for decades. Without that capability, you can't build a space station or walk on the moon. Few people would begrudge the Chinese the opportunity to develop a similar capability for their own space program. The only problem is that there's been no official information about the satellite maneuvers from Beijing (although the maneuvers have been the subject of unofficial debate inside as well as outside China).
"So far, still no official or even off-the-record disclosure from Beijing that this new experiment is in progress for a month," Oberg said. "That lack of official information can legitimately be considered 'information' about the mission goals and their probable military purposes."
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are we to expect any more commentaries from interested parties speaking out again Oberg? (like we saw in the article about the UFO's book)
I am turning 29 years old this October. I was 8 when the Berlin wall came down. Even still I have very a well defined dislike for communists (to put it lightly). It makes me wonder, If I have this sentiment in my mind right now at almost 30 then what must it be like for folks my parents age? and how does that fuel what I hear coming from folks who jump to the conclusion that China's military is ramping up some sort of space warfare program?
China owns us economically - no need to take further actions against us. Our biggest asset (ace in the hole) is food - spoiled Chinese kids (remember; only one kid per house - they get spoiled or sent to work for Disney) love Mickey D (fat will kill us before any human enemy).
Seriously; wheat and other food exports are what keeps China, Russia and every other (unless we embargoed them - black market steps in) country that has or is currently suspect toward accepting the USA - rational enough to see it really is a global economy now.
Rivals are in the minds of video gamers, fear mongers, hate for the sake of preventing (race) change, and any other issue that creates an enemy. Some people are just wired to fight - even when they got it good. Reason and logic are replaced in some with a victim/vigilante approach to life - and the news/media feeds off of them daily.
My money is on Tesla coils - it works on Command and Conquer.
In 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down the US Defense budget was $427.7 BILLION and President
George HW Bush told his new SecDef Dick Cheney to cut the Defense budget by -30% as America's
'Cold War Dividend' to celebrate the collapse of Communism. Instead, Cheney and his Zionist buddies
formed the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) and changed the war profiteering banner from
'Creeping Communism' to 'Islamic Jihad', declaring in their charter 'America needs a New Pearl Harbor'.
Well, Cheney sure got his Pearl Harbor in 2001, and today the Defense budget is $838 BILLION and
Congress just gave them a +$95 BILLION budget INCREASE I guess to celebrate the war profiteering,
along with $155 BILLION in UNDISCLOSED, UNAUDITED slush funds for Galactic Oil Wars of Terror,
together over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR, and we don't even know where any of that goes to,
whereas every Tom, Dick and Billy-Bob screams if we add +6% to the $60 billion Food Stamp program
which feeds 46,000,000 Americans who aren't Chosen of GOB, who are jobless, homeless, part-time,
on-call with no benefits and no healthcare, unlike the Defense welfare tax drones who have salaries
whether they do anything or not (and there are 854,000 TS/SCI 'Top Secret' drones who do what?),
along with full benefits and full medical care, for life, plus fat pensions nobody will ever take away.
Proof things were better for Americans before Reagan stole into office and destroyed our Republic
by secretly negotiating with the Iranians to hold the hostages until the elections to shame Carter.
That would be treason, yupp! So would Iran-Contra and Star Wars, but by then, who was counting?
MOB Barley,
At 45 years of age, I can tell you this. I grew up under the dark cloud of the Cold War. Most of the people your age or a tad younger, were taught from a since of euphoria after the Berlin wall came down that we are all "Great Big Global Pals" now. NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, could ever be further from the truth. America has her faults, But the leaders of the Ex-Soviet Union like Stalin, a man who is responsible for the Murder and exile to Siberia of MILLIONS of people, only the Khmer Rouge regime and Pol Pott are thought to be responsible for more deaths in the 20th century then Stalin (That is WAY more the Hitler who was a mass murderer himself)
There were men like Khrushchev who stood in the UN chamber and said... "We will never have to fire a shot, we will destroy you from within" to the American people and leadership. A man who secretly parked ballistic Missiles 90 miles from Florida and would have used them had he thought he had the advantage.
Brezhnev, a man who pushed the spy trade to another level, more then 100 American were sent to prison or killed because of that mans attempts and sometimes success at stealing American technology.
You must understand, and leave the Progressive/Liberal "Dreams of Euphoria" out of the picture for just a moment. Communism is EVIL man... I am not saying that in a spiritual sense, but in a sense that that system takes all you have, then gives you back what it sees fit. You don't pick leaders, Oh, they may play the little election game like in Argentina or Iran... But whom ever has the power already and the ability to defend that power... is not going anywhere in a Communist State.
If China were our friend, we would not have their hand in a technology purse every time we turn around. The same hold true for Russia who we just ousted several people out of America and back to for spying.
There may be a scientific reason to park two satellite within a half mile of each other, I cannot imagine what though, They are kept at a distance so one does not effect the others broadcasts and sensitivity. Bring them together is like placing two radio's broadcasting close to each other. Turn on an AM station and listen to one station breaking into another as you drive along. Same situation, different information.
NEVER, EVER allow some Tenured College Professor who feels YOGA is the most threatening thing in life fool you with BS. Communism is WRONG! and it steals the life away from people. Perhaps you never saw the empty Soviet shelves as people my age did. You never saw people who were given an "Apartment" to live in and told where to go to work the next day. You never heard the stories from those who escaped about people in those apartment buildings who would tell on others who may have or may not have said something against the USSR and how those people would suddenly just vanish forever. It was evil and still is and still is evil.
I dare to say Khrushchev was telling us the truth we he said what he did at the UN. Communism took a "Break" from outright existence 22 years ago. It did so because it could not compete with American ingenuity and strength under Ronald Reagan. So, they quit and moved their operation right into our very homes and schools (Please refer to people sent back to Russia from New York and remember there are likely many many more like them). Some of the Liberal Arts Schools of today and even some of what we call our "Preeminent places of higher education" have been infiltrated by people with Communist views. They teach them to Kids who have never been taught that what they are hearing could DESTROY the Country their Grandfather may have bled and Died for.
Its not over by a damn site... I just hope we can get the Rot and slump out of our Government and White House before its too late to do anything about it. Because if one thing is for Certain... Obama is as Weak Kneed as they come... and will RUN and HIDE at the first sign of Chinese aggression. AND, what he is doing in our economy and in our Nation concerning its ability to grow and be productive is in free fall as we speak. You can either listen to the Obamabots... who tell you "All is well" as Unemployment and Business closing escalate daily. Those same liars telling you things are "Getting Better".... OR, you can look around with YOUR OWN EYES, and listen to the 75% Majority of this Nation who know its even worse then they are letting on. 9.6% Unemployment?..BS! I would believe 20% but it is likely closer to 22%. We as a Nation are Weaker today then we were at any other point Pre WW2. And the man in charge has shown -0- signs of having a TRUE WORKING PLAN other then throwing money at it, to stem the tide. So, the Obababots just clam up and say...IT CAN'T BE FIXED.... Nonsense.... I say it again for the Progressives and Liberal who were staring in the mirror...NONSENSE! We are the United States and can Overcome ANYTHING we set out mind to. So long as the right man is at the helm and he has the support of the people.
Communism never works. It is very easy to explain. As soon as a so-called socialist gets into power, he drops all his former views about everyone being equal and deserving a fair chance and tries to horde all the wealth for himself and his family and supporters. He still uses all the pretty talking points, but he never actually sticks to his values. It is very much like western democracy in that sense, but it is much slower moving and less adaptable.
I will admit that many of the people my age are pretty dang naive when it comes to foreign affairs (note: I said many, not most or all). In America the newer generations seems to be taught to use a computer and that's about all they can do well.
I am a capitalist to the core of me and I am aware of capitalism's pit-falls and fall backs. was it Churchill that said "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."?
But I'm glad to see that some people still carry the passion of anti-communism.
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what we read/hear/see, often are unreal!
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welcome to the real world!
“The monopoly of money, or the restriction of its circulation, is merely a variation of this simple form of monopoly. That is all. The stupid fall into the trap. Wars are provoked in succession, deliberately, by the great usurers, in order to create debts, to create scarcity, so that they can extort the interest on these debts, so that they can raise the price of money (i.e., the price of the various monetary units controlled by, or in the possession of, the same autocrats), altering the prices of the various monetary units when it suits them, raising and lowering the prices of the various foodstuffs when it suits them, completely indifferent to the human victim, to the accumulated treasures of civilization, to the cultural heritage.” — Ezra Pound
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell
AND do not forget that after the thinktank Project For a New American Century became defunct it was replaced by the FOREIGN POLICY INITIATIVE.
If you have not read about this newer thinktank you should be aware that the neocon agenda is being pushed every day on capitol hill by the greedy S.O.B.'s.
Do you think America's foreign policy should be an aggressive military one?
I for one agree with the speak softly and carry a big stick philosophy of old. but that's just me. The ultra right wing wants to make a lot of money off of the military industrial complex and the only way to do this is to form a continual state of war.
Yes, China holds a significant portion of US debt, but far from the majority of it. You haven't explained how their debt holdings provides them with any leverage against the US. If anything, it gives the US leverage over China. Any action that China takes against us threatens the value of their holdings. Our debt is not is redeemable on demand, and considering the low interest rates in the world at the moment, there'd be no problem selling new bonds elsewhere.
I'm your folk's age. We don't worry about it. Communism has always been a failure. Look at the old USSR, or Cuba. If you watch faux entertainment, you are probably scared to death. Don't be. If you are concerned that the US is falling behind China technologically, then vote for the people who will dump money into scientific education. Teaching our children magic, or that education is bad (glen beck) will surely be our demise. We do not need mythical superbeings, we need real education. If we elect people like sarah palin, or michelle bachman to positions of power, we will be a laughing stock all over the world
I doubt that either one would bow to Muslim kings. Our present regime would most likely surrender and apologize at the first sign of trouble. That is what is threatening to make us a laughing stock.
cal; talk about an extreme view. Emotional actions are always regretted.
Both parties have persons who are laughable, right here at home.
We are already JACK
Califonia - What the hell is so bad about bowing to royalty? everyone bows to the Queen of England too, nobody cares. It's just something you do, it's not a sign of weakness.
Dancnman and DrainBramage seem to have a good head on their shoulders.
It's a sad day when a comment like califoniadreamintnot's get's a star.
I agree we do not need a Sarah Palin or a Michelle Bachman, but neither do we need a Barrack Obama either. What we need is to elect real people who will adhere to the Constitution, get our troops back from two illegal conflicts...wars that were never officially declared by Congress. Additionally, the Patriot Act, rendition, torture, and warantless wiretapping,should be eliminated!! Same goes for Obamacare, which was written by the very same corporations, that were supposed to be reigned in!! And with that I say---Ron Paul 2012!!
Do they know that we know that they are holding these secret maneuvers? If so maybe they need some assistance and don't know how to ask. Maybe if the Americans and Russians would kindly suggest some joint assistance. If those satellites almost collided think about what else they could knock out that is ours and worse what would it be considered. An accident or an outerspace incident.
OK, so they knock out our satellites. We only use them for navigation, targeting and intelligence gathering. And maybe some command and communications. What's the big deal? I'm sure the government is prepared for that contingency with well tested alternatives or has developed the technology to assure the survival of these assets.
Mil.Gov has a constellation of spy satellites and GBR-P mega-radars that scan the earth continuously
for any signature of launched ICBM, not that we have anything that can do anything about it, since
our illustrious Patriot missile system has proven effective only 50% of the time in PRESCRIPTED tests,
where they knew the moment of launch months in advance, and the trajectory, basically didn't launch
until the Patriot people told them that had all systems go, and STILL the Patriot missed half the time.
Half the time in ICBMs is half pregnant. You'll only have seventeen minutes to kiss your ass goodbye,
once the Chinese and Indian military decide it's 'go time' against the Great Shaytan Super-Power (sic).
....just because Herman C says it doesn't mean it is fact. He speaks from a conspiracy-thinking mind. Herman C, you're interesting nonetheless, go author a best seller (science fiction of course).
America run's so many covert operations in space it is really crass and moronic to point the finger at China for simply testing a link-up and docking protocol.
How many American's were exposed to America's covert satellites scanning America using deep underground radar beams? Certainly a great many.
How many Indian's were murdered in Mumbai after America's CIA gave high resolution recon satellite photos to the Pakistani ISI of each of the Mumbai targets?
Whoever in the CIA that gave the Pakistani ISI those specific American spy satellite photos sure as HEL knew how they would be used to create terror and murder Indian civilians in Mumbai. But oh NO, China has two practice satellites circling the globe in close proximity.
A. Smith: You are a moron!! Where is your proof? You sure didn't post it here. I do however agree with your first paragraph, after that you fall off the deep end!!! Fly
Could not put it better...The US has so many covert operations that even the US President is unaware of them...America has enough satellites in space to watch every inch of ground on earth...enough to see what type of sh*t these Talebans in Afghanistan had....The moment that China sends up a practice satellite, paranoia sets in...
The term you are looking for is GPR, ground penetrating radar, which is not the same as the military
GBR-P, which is ground-based radar prototype super-radar that follows the curve of the earth and
bounces off the ionosphere to reveal what's going on over the horizon in China and North Korea,
not that either country has an ICBM which can make it even halfway to Hawaii, much less to CONUS.
The US has more covert operations up your underpants and into your bank account that all of China.
ewpfaffly, Indian security forces found several of the Hi-Resolution Recon Spy Satellite photos of Mumbai Targets inside the hijacked fishing boat the Pakistani terrorists used to enter the harbor in Mumbai, India. The sole surviving Pakistani terrorist told the Indian interrogators that the Pakistani ISI had provided their team with Hi-Resolution Recon Spy Satellite photos of EACH of the Mumbai, India targets for their team to work on assault routes and escape routes.
Later America's NSA floated a false flag propaganda piece suggesting it must have come from one of two commercial satellite imaging company's that sell satellite images for a price. However it was clear from the beginning to the Indian investigating team the Hi-Resolution Recon Spy Satellite photos were much higher resolution than that available from either of the then two commercial vendors. India's PM then went and personally spoke with President Obama shortly afterwards.
At the time leading up to the Mumbai attack only America and Russia had the capability to take and obtain those Hi-Resolution photos over India. Russia wouldn't help the Pakistani ISI even if it were the last thing on earth after what the Pakistani ISI did to the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. America's CIA however has a very long relationship with aiding, supporting and supplying equipment and intelligence to the Pakistani ISI agency. YES ewpfaffly, there is absolutely NO DOUBT that America's CIA supplied the Hi-Resolution Spy Satellite Photos of each of the Mumbai, India targets to the Pakistani ISI agents that supplied those to the team of terrorists that mowed down and slaughtered a great many Indian civilians. Those in the CIA that ordered those photos and the American agency that supplied them knew damn well what and how those photos would be used, namely to slaughter Indian civilians.
Herman C, Satellite Based Ground Penetrating Radar hit's it's target with FAR GREATER microwave radiation than 1,000 cell phones. Infants and children do not tolerate large amounts of microwave energy 'well' nor is it 'healthy' to expose infants and children to a large burst of microwave energy. How much microwave energy? Enough to penetrate 20 feet or more underground and STILL have enough energy to bounce back to a receiving station on the Satellite or airborne receiver. Did the US Space Command tell 'America' they would be doing that? Of course not, bend over and say oh!
Woa. China uses space (which belongs to all) and the yankees are already sh^t%ing bricks. Wasn't it the USA that launched two (not one, mind you) space vehicles recently without notifying anybody of their intended purposes. Most likely to be used for military purposes. The hypocrites never cease to amaze me. Pathetic.
Dude if America offends you sooo much why not move to the paradise called China?? No paranoia just concern. China is one of the biggest exporter of weapons to the terrorist groups around the world, per Khadafi of Libya. He turned over proof and even where shipments were coming in through Dubai heading to Yemen. Then ALL of a sudden the loonie liberal press stop reporting about it why. Not paranoia just concern.
He didn't say that China was better; he was just calling for fairness. Take another read. (or another reading class)
did I strike a nerve natw you must always question the motives of hostile nations they do it all the time. when will you libs grow up nothing in life IS FAIR...
Readers all, to have broader perspective in comprehending the world's affairs, try to read thoroughly following: "Who Owns ...." http://bit.ly/d5CDxD
Also a thought-provoking reading here: an afternoon... http://bit.ly/9GeqDW
and another one here to keep one's soberness: where we're coming from...full disclosure http://bit.ly/dDrd7W
search also the vast net, just DIG DEEPLY... just look around for "neocon", "military complex" "the big picture"
what we read/hear/see, often are unreal!
well, pay a visit to http://bit.ly/dyiRau as well...and remember about the "Project for the New American Century (PNAC)": http://bit.ly/dkaxZf
welcome to the real world!
“The monopoly of money, or the restriction of its circulation, is merely a variation of this simple form of monopoly. That is all. The stupid fall into the trap. Wars are provoked in succession, deliberately, by the great usurers, in order to create debts, to create scarcity, so that they can extort the interest on these debts, so that they can raise the price of money (i.e., the price of the various monetary units controlled by, or in the possession of, the same autocrats), altering the prices of the various monetary units when it suits them, raising and lowering the prices of the various foodstuffs when it suits them, completely indifferent to the human victim, to the accumulated treasures of civilization, to the cultural heritage.” — Ezra Pound
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell
I am chinese and i am disturbed by this...... They appear to be slowly and sneakily taking over the world, first on a financial level, and later in a more disturbing way.....
There are 10,000s of Chinese students on our West Coast learning English and real estate law, for when
the US$ collapses and the Fed gives China the West Coast real estate to settle our TRILLION dollar debt.
But don't worry, they will hire a nice white lady to come to your door to demand your monthly tithe-tax,
and true, you will have to attend Sun Yung Moon meetings to get your food stamps, but it's no big deal.
Head down, shuffle feet, arbeit macht frei, the Sound of Freedom you're hearing on the squawk box.
Damn Herman! You've got it!!!
They should just say it like we do!
They are practicing to shoot down hydralazine from falling satellites which is toxic and could hurt people....Yup, that's how an honest democratic nation works, tell it like it is...
China is the only real threat our country has minus internal turmoil like OUT OF CONTROL DEMS. I say we keep a close watch on china because everyone knows china hates us, World War III, U.S.A vs China
China is the only real threat our country has minus internal turmoil like OUT OF CONTROL DEMS. I say we keep a close watch on china because everyone knows china hates us, World War III, U.S.A vs China
If they are keeping it secret, It can't be good!
maybe they just don't like making up lies (like we do when we pretend we're shooting down a satellite containing hydralazine for public safety cuz somehow it could land on people and poison them... right *sarcasm*)
I don't think China hates us. They want to control the world's resources just like we do. We are competitors, big time. The Chinese don't have any morality issues, kind of like our own military and intelligence agencies, and also our multi-national corporations. We are waging a secret cyber-war even as I write this, they are fighting us every day. All this competition will only increase as time goes by, on many different levels. As long as we don't elect a bunch of tea party and Sarah Palin like idiots, we should be alright.
You don't get it do you?????????????
Keep up with what we are doing will land us in the poor house. And the first thing the democrats will cut is defence. Remember Clinton after the Berlin wall came down, he talked about down sizing Government. All he down sized was the military. The chinese are watching and learning ( And stealing). They are preparing.
As for your comment on the Tea Party and Sarah Palin, reduced size of government and as a result, taxes, living within your means, not mortgaging our kids future with a mountain of debt, seems reasonable.
Your idea that the chinese don't have a moralty issue is laughable, do you remember the pictures of the one man standing in front of a tank. Thousands of their people died, they don't care about killing innocent people. Soon they will own most of the U.S. with the mountain of debt we are running up.
These are exercises of control and manuverability, to be used on knock out our satelites and greatly reduce our effectiveness on the battlefield.
"Remember Clinton after the Berlin wall came down, he talked about down sizing Government. All he down sized was the military."
Your history is a little fuzzy. It was George HW Bush who demanded Defense budget cuts of -30% to
his new SecDef Dick Cheney, but Cheney and his Zionist buddies secretly created the Project for a
New American Century, (PNAC, all Israelis except for Cheney, Rumsfeld and Khalilzhad) who declared
right in their charter, "America needs a New Pearl Harbor", and replaced their "Creeping Communism"
schtick, (murdering millions of innocent SE Asians to 'preserve their freedoms') with 'Islamic Jihad'.
Well, Cheney sure got a New Pearl Harbor, didn't he, and now we have a TRILLION DOLLAR 'Defense'
busy murdering millions of innocent Central Asians, you see, we have ALWAYS been at war in Amerika.
You live on another planet then the rest of us. Everything is Bush and Cheney's fault. I feel sorry for you. Well what am I saying, you are the small minority that still listens to your messiah who says the rebubs are stopping us dems with overwhelming majorities from saving the economy. Don't blame us it's them waah wahh waaah.
Interesting how instead of actually contesting any of the facts, you just lob insults.
The t-party has common sense,those that can't see it are morons. Please move to any country you like. It's time that the ones with BALLS step up and make the real change to take America back.
PLEASE: Tell all of us what these real changes are. It would be appreciated. I NEVER get an answer to that question. Some non-rhetorical steps please.
Every time a teapartier talks about the tea-party group as a whole they sound like they know about some concrete set of goals that the tea-party has set forth in some mystical mission statement. If you look into it thoroughly the tea-party can not make up "it's" mind on it's goals and many tea-party "members" will tell you that the tea-party itself is made up of many types of political person and therefore can not even be considered a single group but a collection of groups with like-minded goals. When you ask what the goals are it sounds simple and straight forward enough - "reduced size of government, reduced taxes, living within your means, not mortgaging our kids future with a mountain of debt..."
Well, let's look deeper. How many politicians "live within their means"? If you can name one I'd like to hear it. "mortgaging our kids future" is something all parties do. It happens because of the quagmire that IS Capitol Hill. No one wants to mortgage anyone's future. That would be idiotic because you are putting a time limit on the money you can make off people and that is what it's all about. How much money can be made off the American people.
anyone with real honest common sense should have the follow political desire under our current democratic Republic - we should all want a "small government" because local governments (should) operate more efficiently than an overarching federal system, we should all want little or no taxes but still have some way to pay for public things and projects, we should all want great free public education because it helps the entire system. I could go on but this comment is already longer than it should be.
Sarah Palin is a lousy voice for any group of people, and that is my opinion. She was a lousy governor.
Different view points should be encouraged in our country and all extremism whether it's ultra right wingers or ultra left wingers or even extreme religious folks should be seen as extreme and then shunned by the greater populace so they know their place. Terrorism cannot be beaten with hatred and killing. Ultra right and left wing thinking cannot be beaten with yelling and name calling or even wise debate. An example of good living needs to be set that would encourage others to follow it. People will follow pretty much anything as long as they believe they will benefit from it.
okay, I'm rambling, but I need to ask just one more question. Tea-partiers often say "we need to take America back". But they use language that makes it seem like they are just taking America backwards. so I have to ask, take America back FROM WHAT?
hmmm there playing the game just like we do....we should be scared, they are.
This is the most concise, intelligent, nonpolitical comment here. Seriously, you're not even going to use this excuse to tell us how your favorite politician will or would have fixed everything. You're not going to say it's all Obama's fault or all Bush's fault. You're not even going to use some meaningless, idiotic insult or bash all those damn liberals or damn conservatives. It's like an actual thinking, reasonable adult wrote this. I'm amazed!
It's pretty bad when we have to manufacture fear, when other countries live it 24/7. This victim stuff is scary.
China can afford research - heck we have to borrow from them to fund our research...lol.
We don't need science and technology. We need make-believe heroes and prayer. Right Sarah and Glen?
Here they go again, demonize and hate. Same old playbook.
Cry when November comes, it'll be a Tsunami.
which came first; the fear baiters or the demonize-rs? There is a logical answer - which will totally escape one party.
Only in the last few years have I ever heard a politician not advocate education - even Bush had a non funded plan...lol. When Palin reverts to a simpler time when it concerns her (leather obsession) wardrobe - I'll consider one room school houses (with prayer time).
Either we stay ahead or at least on par with the rest of the advanced world - or we accept that our chosen path (the Palin plan) is to be second rate...China isn't going to wait for our decision.
Hey Wulff,
Instead of funding schools and being responsible parents, let's just hold hands and say a prayer hoping that God will make everything better instead of taking the initiative ourselves.
Red China is getting too powerful, much too fast and I don't see anything positive from it.
A few more years of stupid decisions by the US and it's going to be check & mate, simple as that.
We're diggin' our own graves appeasing them economically.
China was scared to see how Iraq was defeated by the U.S in 2003. It started to prevent that kind of defeat if it went to war with the U.S. That is all it has been doing. It has no interest to go to war with the U.S.
China has a million man army, air force, armor and ICBMs. Your military analysis is flaccid as your handle.
After a near Nuclear bombardment by Russia in the 1960's while China had no nuclear weapons, China began a huge country wide deep underground tunneling program, placing a sizable percentage of China's manufacturing and military complexes inside deep underground complexes. Thousands of miles of deep underground tunnels connect shops and buildings in China's major cities into those deep underground mazes. A all out nuclear strike on China would still leave 25-50% of China's immense manufacturing infra-structure intact and well over 50% of it's population.
Contrasted to the United States with its deep underground complexes for diplomats and high level VIP politicians, the majority are for DHS managers and high level military officials. A all out nuclear strike on America would leave at most 5% or less of America's immense manufacturing infra-structure and well below 25% of America's total population. America's population is far more at risk in regards and contrasted to any exchange with China or Russia. China's ICBM's carry those gut busting multi-megaton hydrogen bombs also, not the small yield types which both America and Russia carry.
During the entire 30 days of search and destroying Iraq's entire infra-structure, Saddam's mobile missiles were of the highest target priority, NOT ONE was destroyed by a single air strike in that entire period. Russia meanwhile has scores of it's mobile 10 warhead Satan MIRV ICBM's and China has a similar weapon which is difficult to detect and upon launch drills it's MIRV's at Mach 10+ speeds. A single Russian mobile 10 warhead Satan MIRV ICBM would reduce Israel to a single empty parking lot at Mach 10+ speeds.
Many American's like myself live above ground in wooden framed homes, let's not jump on the Zionist war banging insanity parade just to see how those hold up.
The shovel is already in the ground.
You guys need to check out this site that monitors satellites and other stuff in the heavens.
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=25544
great! reveal our satellites location to the terrorists! (hah,ah,ah,aha)
The US has so many covert operations that even the US President is unaware of them...America has enough satellites in space to watch every inch of ground on earth...enough to see what type of sh*t these Talebans in Afghanistan had....The moment that China sends up a practice satellite, paranoia sets in...
The next serious war for China will be secular China vs Radical Islam, not us. We are like a cow with the milk for them. I'm sure they know and are already preparing for that. And probably, so does Radical Islam.....
China has already made treaty's and deals with 'Islam', on China's part Islam is permitted to continue it's takeover of African nations in exchange for sharing it's Middle East Oil fields with China and China is to provide protection against likely American occupation.
It had to be utter insanity of the Republican administration of Bush-Cheney to slam the door of friendship, alliance and partnership with Brazil which opened the way for China to slip in a buy up a great many of Brazil's natural resources on the cheap. Bush-Cheney also gave China Iraq's immense Oil field leases worth multiple Trillions of dollars for mere pennies. The Bush Family (Bush sr., and Bush jr.) both appears to have been 'Manchurian Candidates' which greatly weakened America and at the same time greatly enabled China to prosper.
Its hard to believe China could be up to any "good" behind a veil of secrecy. Most likely what they are doing is something bad....that's why they have never earned the free world's trust.
It could be a Chinese version of GPS Satellite for their military missile guidance use.
China holds a boat-load of American IOUs and that puts us in the danger zone. We must reduce our deficit spending or continue to be at their mercy.
The nation seeking security through war will know no peace!
Try putting the Trillion / year into economic, agricultural, and sanitation projects world wide. Give young people a purpose and a place to live. Use the funds to make matching grants for beneficial projects...
Can you imagine what could be done globally?
The Chinese have plans for the moon, the fact that they are exploring ways to orbit and contact makes it quite possible to see a Chinese Space Station in the near future.
We have provided the funds by hocking our way into odd pointless wars, let the Chinese Moon Colony begin.