You have no problem giving up your rights and the rights of your family and their safety. You have no problem for the countless Americans that gave up the life for your freedom because you don't care?

What was that saying Give me liberty or give me death, what’s your slogan, The terrorist hate our freedoms so I gave mine away.

Yea who cares, go watch your football game or dancing with the stars.

I have to agree 'who cares!', I have bigger things in life to worry about than a crappy a$$ image of me 'naked' viewed by somebody who dosen't even know me. I am not giving up my rights either, I gave implyed permission by stepping into the machine, it's either that or get throughly gropped by a security person. Either way, I still have my rights and I do get to choose what type of screening I want. I like my chances with the machine better, at least it can't 'cop a feel' and know my cup size! LOL!

Grow up people, it's a human body... guess what everybody has one and nobody really cares about a black and white outline of yours.

Have you seen the internet? Have you heard of sexting?

A damn body scan is nothing... yet it could save your life and the lives of those you care about, but you want to complain about it? get over yourself.

Kelcy

I'm with you and Ben!

We have given up too much of our so-called liberties and safety is still an over whelming issue.

Hey, What's wrong with football!!?

Kelcy, I'm pretty sure I can think of some "liberties" that we have given up that you would agree had to be given up for the greater good (gun control comes to mind).

Americans are so self absorbed it's ridiculous. No one cares about your fat ass bodies. It's a human figure, you're not that special.

And I as an American could care less.

As far as I am concerned, it is time for a Class Action lawsuit against those who are currently 'terrorizing' us with this intrusive procedure. My God, the only thing I can think is that the terrorists are laughing their behinds off! Thanks, US, you reacted just the way they thought you would!

And, all Americans will pay the price! Hello, there is only one more notch before they get to the full cavity search!

We're screwed. Our rights and privacy are being consistently and efficiently stripped. The government is gaining greater access and control over our lives. Ten years from now we will likely look back with regret, and wish we had stopped it when we had the opportunity.

Joey dont use the machine !!!! I would rather my family be safe than , worry that " Joey " has a problem with someone not knowing its him and might find out how small his d%%k really is !!!

I agree with leon, if the scan bothers people so much they can drive where ever it is they want to go. I personally would rather fly safe knowing everyone had the exact same security check.

I am with Leon...Who the heck cares...Tell you the truth...I wouldn't...People want to see my stuff ...Just ask...He is right...Names not included...nor addresses...Look all you want...At least I have some comfort in knowing nobody is carrying any kind of weapon onto my flight...

@ Jason...I can't drive to Thailand bud...And that is where I am headed...hehe

What rights are being taken away!? Do you not have the right to avoid the machines by traveling by other means?

I'm sorry when did it become a right to move about the planet by commercial aircraft?

You do have the right to your expectation of security when flying, not your privacy. Don't like it, don't fly. Otherwise get over yourself, your not all that anyway.

I have to laugh when they talk about the professionalism of the TSA officers. Past incidents involving misconduct by TSA agents proves that many are definitely not professional. There have even been a number of incidents of TSA baggage screeners stealing from peoples luggage. Do you really believe that they would not capture and sell images for some extra cash when there is very little chance of them getting caught. As far as the people viewing the scans not being able to see the person being scanned or know who it is, I have to laugh. All it would take is someone out in the area of the checkpoint sending a text message to the person in the back room and that anonymity goes right out the window. Most of these TSA screeners are $10/hr low level types that could easily be bribed into capturing images of celebs and other public figures.

For those that keep bringing up danger from the scans. they are just perpetuation misinformation. The amount of radiation from these scans is very low. You get more radiation in a couple of minutes in flight on the plane at altitude than you do from the scan. The health risks from these scanners is pretty much non-existent. If one of the people posting statements to the contrary ha any links to reputable sources that say otherwise, I would be very interested in seeing them. Otherwise, they should stop parroting statements that they have no evidence to support. Everything I have seen from trusted sources says that there is no real risk.

I really question whether these scanners go beyond what is allowed by the 4th amendment. Also, can these scans, or evidence collected as a result of them, be used in the prosecution of things besides terrorism. If someone if found to be carrying drugs as a result of one of these scans, can they be prosecuted for the drug smuggling? What about other contraband that may be detected? Does the fact that you are getting on a plane mean that you are voluntarily submitting to these searches thus eliminating the need for law enforcement to demonstrate probable cause for the search? I do not think that smugglers should get away with it, but I have serious problems with the erosion of our 4th amendment rights in the name of security. Particularly because this security is nothing but an illusion. While these scanners may catch amateurs, they will do little to protect us from someone who is truly determined to get explosives onto a plane. These scanners can not see inside the body, so short of doing a cavity search on everyone getting on a plane, there is no real way to stop someone who is truly determined. Spending the resources on better intelligence gathering efforts would do far more towards stopping the determined terrorist than these scanners will. Timely follow up on information they already had would have stopped the underwear bomber from every getting on the plane. Timely follow up would also have stopped the recent package bombs from ever getting on a cargo plane, and even at that it was intel that stopped the attempt, not any of the fancy package scanners.

jason get a map - you can't "drive" to Europe. the scan is just part of the theatre of the illusion of security. How many of the decision makers actually fly without their private jet? Are they submitted to the consequences of their decisions- the government's latest knee jerk, after the fact, collective covering of their behinds.

Hmm, I'm pretty familiar with the Constitution, and I don't remember one of our guaranteed rights being the right to fly. If you don't like the safety protocols, then drive, walk, take a bus or a train. I personally would rather know that all the passengers are safe, rather than preach about standing up for my rights as I get blown out of the sky.

And, what are we supposed to do as an alternative? Oh, I know - let's just blow them all away, right? Pretty two-faced to argue for your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, while depriving others from the same. Or maybe, intelligence is the answer. Israel arguably has the best intelligence service in the world, and they are routine victims of terrorism.

It will be a cold day in hell when I submit to a body scan.

And don't give me that "keeping us safe" crap. It ain't doing jack sh*t to keep us safe.

It is a heavy-handed reaction by people who do not know what the hell they are doing just so the gullible public will think they are doing something.

For those of you who say you don't care about who sees your scanner image, what you're really saying is you don't care about how anyone else feels about theirs. Because you don't care, so what if some perv has your underage daughter's scan pinned above his toilet, or an unscrupulous TSA agent sells a scan of someone famous to a gossip rag. There are all kinds of reasons why this is a bad idea, and just because you don't care about what someone does with your scan doesn't give you the right to say no one else has the right to give a damn about their own.

I'm waiting for the real fun to start. When the lawsuits start in behalf of the 13-17 year old girls and boys.

Seriously though, what is going to be next? They are taking away our civil liberties more and more each year. You can say it doesn't bother you now, but I bet it will when we become a Marxist nation. One day in the future we will have had enough. We will march on Washington and another revolution will happen. This is just another thing that is getting us closer to the end. When is enough going to be enough.

It sickens me of all the good people who have fought and lost their lives for our freedoms and so many of you don't care if we lose our freedoms. I guess that's why our country is in so much trouble.

Just think if you were famous...we will be in the checkout line with our beer and the cover of the tabloids will have scans of some of our oldest movie stars. I can't wait. I'll drink the beer in the parking lot after seeing that.

Omg people this is so f-ing stupid. I would rather let someone see my scanner image than get blown up. If you dont want to do this than dont fly. Its that simple paople. Do they have this issue anywhere else in the world. No!!! People in this country are so worried someone might see there fat roll, or maybe a breast. Deal with it. As far as Joey saying go watch a football game or Dancing with the stars, I say go smoke another bong you hippie. Lets see how people react when someone doesnt go through a scanner and has a Bomb on something on them that helps take over a plane. Or they have a bomb on them that someone could have seen the outline of in the image. Then lets see how many people are complaining about their privacy.

Excuse me, all of you hypocritical jerk-offs! The first time something happens where an individual gets onboard a plane with something that could possibly jeopardize the lives of countless people, you will all be so quickly to wag your self-righteous fingers to say that it is TSA's fault! How could they not screen us better and not use more technology to make sure that we are safe in our daily travels! The terrorists don't care one way or another what your body looks like inside this machine but they do care about what their chances are as far as getting something past this technology in order to do as much damage as possible to the American people! Have you "not so bright individuals" gotten it through your thick skulls that we are not liked as a nation and in order for us to be safe on our own home front, we have to take some uncomfortable measures, at times, to make our lives a little safer. You don't seem to have problems with loved ones of other families going over into foreign lands to fight and die for your freedom but yet you can't play your part in this game and get screened in order to fly the friendly skies? As far as the so called "groping" is concerned, I would rather be screened throughly then get onboard a plane and get my head blown off because of some person that slipped through the cracks due to him not being screened with every possible measure out there. As far as these body images are concerned, who cares what you look like. They are looking for items that are not supposed to enter the plane and not what your body type is. I can't see how they would enjoy or even want to save any of these images due to the fact that over half the nation is obese to begin with, come on people! Half of you don't even want to look at your own bodies in the mirror!! LOL!

The odds of you "getting blown up" are just about a hundred million to one. The odds of your scan being used in an unscupulous fashion are considerably higher. Just because our odds of dying in a drunk driving accident are incredibly high doesn't mean everyone should take a breathalyzer in order to drive. Get a freaking grip.

Look.

I am a law abiding citizen. I dont LIKE the scanners, but, realize that they are necessary. I'll fly. I'll go through the scanner.

What I DONT like even more, is the lying. Forget about the Marshalls - let's talk airport.

1. Relying on TSA personnel to adhere to the "policy". Gimme a break. It's insulting.

2. WHY, on earth, would Homeland security spend all this money on these scanners, and then NOT allow it to store images, i.e, evidence. Do you really think the Gov. would pass up an opportunity NOT to get more info on you and me ?

I dont care about some momentary blurred image of me. OR, I can go for the pat down - either way I'm not going to quit flying. First, it's kinda hard to justify bringing an already beleaguered industry to its knees based on rules placed upon them by the government; second, we already KNOW that without the best security available, people WILL die. It's hard enough keeping up with the always new ways they can kill people (or attempt to). At least this will thwart SOME of their actions.

What would the Founding Fathers have said about going through a full-body scan? Or an "enhanced" pat-down? C'mon all you Constitutional purists. Is it okay to give up our freedom to fight the terrorists? (Not that any of this does crap to fight terrorists, but that's the tagline.)

No, Real America.

Our founding fathers would have gone into the offending camp, be it a country or religion, and butchered every last one of them.

You see, back then, there was no such thing as "political correctness".

The head of the TSA acknowledged that the new policy is unpopular but said he would not change it. Someone needs to remind him that we are a government of the people. Send him and his policy to a communist country where it belongs.

Thes "officials" must not have read the operational pamphlet that comes with the scanners. It states and has been reported that they can save the scans and there have also been reports that they will be saved for bio-metric purposes. I like how they say they maintain such high professional standards as they radiate americans, which by countless reports is dangerous, or molest you and your children. If we wanted to keep our skies safe, we need to stop the state dept. from allowing guys like the underwear bomber to bypass security. For all of you that think its okay to give up your freedom for safety, you will soon find out that there is no end to this tyranny. "Don" Napolitano and Pistole have lied about almost everything this week. These creatures hate the light of transparency, its time to kick on all the lights and out these criminals.

A few things, first, everyone who says "it's not a right to fly on a plane" is correct. If you don't like the body scanners, then don't fly. Unfortunately, the majority of people who, like me, feel that it is an ineffective and potentially unsafe procedure are not willing to do the one thing that will guarantee that this stops: don't fly. As everyone knows, once the airlines start to feel the pinch, they wil run, crying, to the government to roll back the safety protocols so they don't go belly up, and the government, being the well traind dog of the corporate world, will be all too happy to oblige them. Then the security will get relaxed, and everything will go back to normal.

There was an article recently (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/11/the-things-he-carried/7057) that shows that all these security measures do nothing to stop the problem, and there is nothing that would keep the terrorist from detonating the bomb right there in the security area, where a massive group of unsuspecting people are packed in like sardines, waiting for the security check. So we are spending massive amounts of money to stop the stupid terrorists, but not the smart ones. All of these procedures are to make us "feel" safe, so we feel like the government is doing something proactive, but it is as ineffective as it has ever been, at least in part because of our complacency stemming from how safe it makes us feel.

I care little about the "privacy" aspect, but the bombarding with x-rays can't be healthy (Marie Curie proved that radiation is bad for you), and I don't want some stranger groping me, my wife, and our daughter because I don't want to subject them to the scan. If that means I drive everywhere, that's fine, and the airlines can just try to figure out what fees to add on to make up for the loss of business.

Quite honestly I'd prefer it if they saved the pictures, that way if some kind of weapon gets past the system they will have a record of it.

"yet it could save your life and the lives of those you care about, but you want to complain about it?"

Let me know when it has actually done that, because so far, it hasn't caught a thing, and even their tests to show if it really works or not are classified. If it worked, they would just show us the report, but because it probably won't stop anything from getting through, they make the report classified, that way your left with either believing them or not. My thoughts are so far, they are all damn liars, so no I don't trust what ANY politician tells me; and the airlines has lost all of my money because of it.

First off, for Edward from LA; Gun Control laws are the biggest scam in the world; they have accomplished ZERO, Nothing, Zilch and if you look at the cities with the Highest rates of deaths from gunshots, the most armed robberies you'd discover that they have a much higher rate than most cities in Florida where LAW ABIDING citizens with proper training and a Concealed Carry Permit are able to carry a weapon as self protection and to help stop crime. Disarming citizens makes them into Victims and serfs.

All the security measures with the TSA , the scanners and all the rest have not caught a SINGLE terrorist bomber; why does needing to fly give the government and/or a PRIVATE agency to scan your body with radiation or to violate your person with a Feel-up done with the hands; Are YOU a criminal, have YOU been caught after having committed a crime; If the feel-up of the body on random people is sooo good, why not feel-up EVERYBODY. It is intrusive and before some nutcase argues that you "gave permission" when you bought your ticket; There is a thing in Law where If you are forced to accept some obnoxious requirements to obtain a benefit due to the position of power of one party, then that clause is Null and Void. Here the government, your government is in the position of using force (get scanned and felt up or don't fly) to make you accept their illegal, intrusive and 4th amendment Rights as a citizen. IF you continue to accept this, what next, a feel-up before boarding a bus, how about before entering a shopping mall, how about your kids before they enter the school; those are ALL spots you might have a terrorist with a bomb in their underwear; just checkout the international news reports from the last 20 or so years.

If you want to be good little sheep and serfs for the Federal Government, just go right ahead and get scanned and felt up; why not just drop your clothes so they can get a good look, that way you'll be MUCH SAFER on that airplane.

Sorry, meant to say the cities with the stricest gun laws like Washington DC and Chicago to name two.

To Edward from LA...I haven't given up MY Second Amendment right. I don't know what you are talking about. I have not given up ANY of my Liberties. That is not to say that those liberties, which I was born with, have not been stripped by our government, but I have given up none of them.

They have crossed a line. I love the highest professional standards comments. Yeah really. It does matter. They have cammeras in London that can be directed to watch people in the streets. They did a study and they are often pointed at windows of young womens apartments. I am sure those guys had the highest "professional standards" Peoples privacy is important and it needs to be protected.

Go ahead and opt out of the body scanners, I will get through the security line faster.

Let us now get rid of the TSA. The government never does anything efficiently.

The airlines should do the security checks and use a "profiling procedure" as well as other methods to insure our security.

And they probably would not have to scan or grop an 89 year old grandma or a nun who has been in her order for 50 years.

It still amazes me as to how ignorant the sheep really are.

Gun control was mentioned, but that just means one shot, one kill. 0_o No one I know has given up the RIGHT to bear arms. (BTW - In Ohio, for now, you need a permit for conceal carry. But you need NOTHING for open carry! And check out Vermont's gun laws. I believe they're the best in the country. CCW, open carry, no problem. Just check your gun at the door like the GOOD old days. Isn't it interesting how their crime rate is so low. I wonder if there is a correlation?! sarcasm.)

Those that talk about no "right" to fly... We were guaranteed the RIGHT to free and unobstructed travel. The mode was not penned because they kind of figured that progress would occur in the future. What a concept!

"I would rather let someone see my scanner image than get blown up." -(Personally, I'ld rather have someone b10w me rather than get scanned or felt up!)- Let me guess. You're probably one of those A-holes that believe in mandatory helmet laws, too. Sorry, I won't give up my freedom that easily. I'm a FIRM believer in "Let those who ride, decide." So it would stand to reason that I also believe in "Let those who fly decide." I have no problem walking through a metal detector because they are truly non-invasive. Frankly, I'ld rather take my chances and keep my freedom. And don't give me that "If ya ain't got nothing to hide" crap. That's the same mentality they had in pre-Nazi Germany. The Founders of this country held firm to the belief that, "If you don't have anything to hide, then it's none of anyone's business as to what you do."

Which leads me to the big question, where's Due Process? If I am even remotely a suspect of either terrorist or criminal acts (or even attempted acts) and TPTB feel I need to be searched, show me the Warrant specifically for me or piss off! NO governmental organization or alphabet soup agency has carte blanche PRIVILEGE to violate the Fourth amendment regarding unlawful search ans seizure. It's that simple.

Here's my Constitutional take on the situation, whether 9/11 was inside or not. You want to scan foreigners coming in? No problem! You want to scan American and US citizens? (Yeah, there's a difference!) BIG PROBLEM! Problem solved.

Hey Leon.......

After news hit that U.S. Marshals operating a body scanner machine in a courthouse had stored 35,000 images — despite the fact that the machines were supposed to be incapable of saving them

LOL, and TSA says....TRUST ME!

who the hell cares who would want them really

Right "BigDaddy" nobody will pay any attention to your little winkie except to laugh at it.

If this is going to keep me safe on an airplane, if it is going to keep one terrorist from being able to blow up a plane or fly it into a building, if it is going to keep dangerous weapons off planes, then I say go ahead and take naked pictures of me. I don't care. Security trumps everything. And don't give me that meaningless dribble about if you would sacrifice freedom for security then you deserve neither. This isn't the 18th century, this is 21st century air travel. It is a privilege, not a right, to fly. Either play by the rules or secure other means of transportation. Stop whining; submit to the scans; get over your puritan paranoia that someone may see your pee pee, and drop this issue. It is another tool against terrorist. So, if you are opposed to this, then you are opposed to measures that are going to keep terrorist from destroying aircraft, plain and simple.

Lets get it on record that Janet Napolitano should resign the first time an image hits TMZ of Britney Spears or Paris Hilton going through one of her machines...also, evey congressman and woman better be hitting these machines as well. I'd like to see one used for Air Force One passengers as well...lets keep every aircraft safe.

Bull...Sh*t. This ridiculous heavy-handed measure will not keep you safe on an airplane, nor will it save you from getting "blown up".

Security DOES NOT trump everything. The government just llikes you to think it does.

For all of you who think this is keeping you safe........youve bought it hook line and sinker just like the good little sheep youre expected to be.

1-Scans are done at random

2-Profiling isnt allowed (thats how 3year olds get felt up). So that Muslim guy sitting in 3b probably WASNT scanned to avoid "any signs of impropriety". Lets not forget it was Arab Muslims that caused this, not middle aged fat white guys.

3-When the head of Homeland Security has "considered allowing Muslim women to pat themselves down" (http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687) you should know that whatever they try to force us to do doesnt matter, we are screwed either way.

MOST IMPORTANTLY : "A British defense-research firm reportedly found the machines unreliable in detecting "low-density" materials like plastics, chemicals, and liquids—precisely what the underwear bomber had stuffed in his briefs."(http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/01/airport-scanner-scam)

I personally prefer to drive wherever I go. If I have to fly, I will have my fingers crossed that I dont get selected for Secondary screening. Simple as that. I dont have to like it but if Im going to fly I have to suck it up and deal.

So quit being SHEEP and think for yourself for a minute before you buy the "company line".

Who cares: they don 't know me and my name isn't attached to the image. Leon's absolutely right, so is Merimoangel. Joey if you don't like the new rules-DON'T FLY, its that simple. Would you feel better if a bomb toting terrorist got on the same plane with you & your family, that's what you should really consider. Stop hiding behind lawyers & freedom of this & freedom of that, then you'll realize we veterans did our service to keep our country safe. If it takes a body scan or a pat down to insure my safety on my next flight, I'll be at the head of the line, not hiding behind stupid liberty phrases as you do joey-Flake.

Who cares: they don 't know me and my name isn't attached to the image. Leon's absolutely right, so is Merimoangel. Joey if you don't like the new rules-DON'T FLY, its that simple. Would you feel better if a bomb toting terrorist got on the same plane with you & your family, that's what you should really consider. Stop hiding behind lawyers & freedom of this & freedom of that, then you'll realize we veterans did our service to keep our country safe. If it takes a body scan or a pat down to insure my safety on my next flight, I'll be at the head of the line, not hiding behind stupid liberty phrases as you do joey-Flake.

Who cares: they don 't know me and my name isn't attached to the image. Leon's absolutely right, so is Merimoangel. Joey if you don't like the new rules-DON'T FLY, its that simple. Would you feel better if a bomb toting terrorist got on the same plane with you & your family, that's what you should really consider. Stop hiding behind lawyers & freedom of this & freedom of that, then you'll realize we veterans did our service to keep our country safe. If it takes a body scan or a pat down to insure my safety on my next flight, I'll be at the head of the line, not hiding behind stupid liberty phrases as you do joey-Flake.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin - This is the applicable quote because it is clear that many posts on this subject are simply 'fools rants'. Franklin was a man of many dimensions I guess. I do think this issue is worth debating and fixing - but not the name calling and complaining without a solution. My offered solution - Do nothing for now and let it "shake out".

I sappose having a physical before playing sports is a violation of your rights too? Or a prostate check or mamogram? all these done for the sake of preventive security agenst desease, all of which are more intrusive. Hell we should arrest all gynocologist for molestation huh? what about x-ray techs? the x-rays show body parts and no one makes sure they arnt keeping pictures on there cell phone? Get over your self people... these workers care little about what you or the next person look like naked, there worried about carching the next underwear bomber!

I would like to formally request the TSA commence a full, exhaustive background check on ALL their agents -body scanner operators and 'pat downers'- for past sex offender crimes and if any are found, fire them immediately. Turnabout is fair play, isn't it?

who over sees the tsa? all these tsa people were QUICK highers due to we are all terrorists and needed our rights violated.... thanks bush u moron.

No one over sees these people nor does anyone over see border guards. both of which have appalling attitudes and character. most of these people would be FIRED from any company with standards.

Galo: deffinatly, a backround check should be done. that is if one wasnt already done before they were hired. if not than certainly its not unreasonable. whats the arguement there?

I agree totally. I'd sure like to know exactly what right you are giving up by submitting to security checks?

This is insane, most of the TSA employees are high school drop outs and have no common sense. This machine should have never been brought online. The normal metal detector was fine. And the TSA changes their policies everyday to fit what they have done.

Anyone catch the TSA agent who basically molested a 3 year old girl. Because she was pre selected for a search? Common sense would have dictated you not even touch a child that young

Bspurloc: and you know this how? I'd have a terrable additude if i worked around people like you all day too. You know what gives me a terrable additude? People like you... people who enjoy freedom and have done nothen to earn it... nothen to contribute. I've given 6 years of my life and two tours in iraq. You know so little about freedom. keep your nose pointed up, i've given you the right to do so, ive given my time and service so you can sit high and mighty in the best country in the world. the only fear you face is some one seeing you naked. you should thank God for that.

Edward from LA

Kelcy, I'm pretty sure I can think of some "liberties" that we have given up that you would agree had to be given up for the greater good (gun control comes to mind).

Gun control means hitting your target. As for the story at hand, they'll get me in one of those machines when and if they put my corpse into it - there's no way in this world that I'm ever willing to fly ever again. Not alive at least, and not on a commercial airline. Not if I have to either be irradiated or groped in order to get on a plane.

I'm really getting sick and tired of the obnoxious, self righteous quips "you don't have a constitutional right to fly, so just drive there if you don't like it". Why don't we have the option of flying on an airline that DOESN'T have to comply with tyranny. Then you cowards can run through all of the body scans you want and pay for it too.

As for me, I will never willingly fly on an airplane again until I can get on and off of the plane with my dignity intact. Most likely, that will never happen again. I swore that shortly after 9 11 and haven't flown since.

Thank goodness for the Brazilian Butt Lift. I better start wearing underwear again. Oh wait, that won't matter. I can see the lines out the doors at the TSA HR Departments around the country. Seems only fair they run background checks on them. I'm an adult I can handle it, but I don't think I'll let my daughter who is just over the age of 13 fly anymore. She'd be mortified. Great idea to include the age group going through puberty who are already self-conscious enough. That's brillant. Glad they decided kids up to 12 are exempt.

Flying on an Airplane is not a Right. You have chosen to buy a ticket, you have chosen to drive to the airport and get on a plane if you do not like the security screening guess what????? You can choose not to fly. Nobody violated your rights.

a security check is considered molesting a child, yet a pre-sport physical isnt? as a veteran of two tours to iraq i can assure you that age plays no part in a terrorist eyes. nor does it in domestic terrorist that look just like you and me. example... OK city bombing... young clean cut white guy, born in the heartland, turned radical. example.... young, american, white, women are the number one target for domestic terrorist recruitment. think about that next time your flying or on a crouded subway.

people YOU, no matter what you look like, ARE the profile.

Resqman911 - Where do you get off saying that flying on an airplane is not a right? Have you ever read the consisitution? It states that any rights not given to the goverment by the constitution remain a right of tyhe people. It doesn't say that cowards can take my rights away due to their fear. Why don't we skip the tyranny and YOU can drive around if you're too chicken to fly.

If my only reassurance that a TSA employee is so professional that the will not take a picture of my scan on their cell phone or transmit it to their USB. I'm not reassured because I've run into to many of them that simply are not professionals in attitudes or manner. Oh but thats OK because instead of getting stripped (electronically) I can get felt up in a manner that if it wasn't at the airport I would be calling 911. Thats not expectable I should not have to be molested or viewed naked to fly. Ive said it before i'll say it again get rid of TSA and employee bomb dogs and drug dogs because they'll do a 1000 times better job and they won't confiscate my toothpaste.

Oh, for god's sake! People need to get a grip! It's just your body. Why do you care? You came into this world naked, you'll leave this world naked or close to it.

Americans are, collectively, the most incredibly insane prudes the world has ever seen. Give me a break! A 3 year old getting a pat-down is being molested? That is quite insane.

Don't you know that

Better yet, BOYCOTT all airlines and take the train or car!! Less of a hassle and inconvenience even though it may take longer. The train system needs to be expanded and improved like overseas.

Better yet take the train or car and boycott the airlines! It may take a little longer, but at least you will avoid the airport hassle and can enjoy some of the scenery. We need to expand the train system like that overseas.

News Flash for adamst: It is a whole lot more than an outline of you. But then you must not fly very much.

I think another thing everyone is really forgetting, THIS IS RADIATION! The TSA is subjecting women and children to radiation. This is especially important for women. Since they have eggs rather than sperm. The difference is that men regenerate sperm, whereas women are born with a specific amount and cannot regenerate them. The radiation destroys the DNA in the eggs. Im not going to get extremely technical here. But any radiation directly to the ovaries is not good for a woman that either wants to have healthy kids, or is expecting a child. And it is against federal regulation for the public to receive a dose of more than 2mr in any hour via x-ray machines or radioactive sources. Just throwing this out there for ya. Its more important than the privacy portion in my opinion (although I do agree with that as well).

in all this discussion about keeping us "safe" by scanning or searching us, why hasn't anyone brought up the fact that approx 60% - 80% of the cargo placed on commercial passenger airliners is NOT scanned or searched. If someone wanted to place an item in the cargo hold which could be activated from the passenger compartment, what good would all the x-raying, etc have done??????????????????????? IF they want to provide COMPLETE security then I would say nothing about all this scanning controvercy, but until they PROPERLY secure under the plane AND do a better job of screening employees then I thisk all this passenger screening is crap. Last thought - how can Isreal, one of the most dangerous places to travel in, use "legal" profiling to thwart terrorist attacks at their airports successfully for decades?? Are our TSA employees too stupid to be able to be trained to recognize a person who is acting suspecious and then take them aside to question (or search if necessary)?

It is another legalized form of rape. What gives a total stranger the right to your privacy? I would rather die. Death brings an end. Rape brings a lifetime of horror.

I havent been following this so I dont know much about it.....but Im guessing the guys dont want their junk exposed - the forbidden leaf might be removed! LOL! Notice the image is of a woman! We can expose women after all we are considered objects not people right! Really ladies if you are complaining then why are you at all worried that this photo is going to expose more than what you probably are already not wearing anyway! You just dont want the truth to be known what you really have or dont have! LOL!

I personally don't care for the full body scanners because I don't like the thought of somebody seeing naked children all day long. I'm waiting for the first public school to get these scanners so any HS students entering the front door every day get a full body scan. Can you imagine the lawsuit especially if those images make it onto the internet? You know some sexual predator is going to get that job. As for myself, if I am going to be in an airport that does these scans, I may wear a 2 foot prosthetic for the viewers "enjoyment." I may also see if my wife is willing to wear one too. That or if I opt out of the scanner, I'll just tell the guy feeling me up something like, "a little to the left, a little more, yeah thats the stop."

a security check is considered molesting a child, yet a pre-sport physical isnt?

Hey, Adam. Open mouth. Insert foot.

A physical is done by a licensed medical professional and done as such to determine if that person is putting THEMSELF at risk for imminent injury. Period.

A security "check" is done by a "screener" that has had little to no background check, (therefore an indeterminate criminal history), was more than likely incapable of finding a "real" job, (hence the government hand-out job), and has no substantial education in what they should be "looking" for, (OMG! That would be profiling!).

Some other nitwit stated that you're born naked. Yeah, but the event wasn't attended by a bunch of losers pervs that wanted to fondle me.

If I said it once, I've said it a thousand times.

If I am even remotely a suspect of either terrorist or criminal acts (or even attempted acts) and TPTB feel I need to be searched, show me the Warrant specifically for me or piss off! NO governmental organization or alphabet soup agency has carte blanche PRIVILEGE to violate the Fourth amendment regarding unlawful search ans seizure. It's that simple.

It's apparent that a lot of you don't fly very often or this wouldn't be such an issue. If you don't like the scanners then request a pat-down; don't like that then don't fly! As a passenger I expect to be reasonably safeguarded from bodily harm on the aircraft and to make it to my destination unscathed. You have the right to choose another form of transportation but not the right to make my journey less safe. My only concern is that the TSA not exclude anybody based on religious beliefs; once again, if it's against your religion to have a pat-down or go thru a scanner then don't fly! I have been thru many airports and seen too many exceptions made for Muslims that are not afforded anybody else! If you wear a turbin it's a hat and you have to take it off, just like a ball cap or a yarmulka. Our biggest problem right now is that we are so worried about offending somebody that we will sacrifice security to be politically correct. I don't care about your sex, color, creed, or religion - when you decide to get on that plane all of that goes out the window and you submit to the security requirements or don't fly!

Just to clarify a few of your points:

1) The airports DO NOT employ the TSA, nor do they purchase naked body scanners. The TSA is a government agency that has bullied its way into the airports. The airports (theoritically) have the option to opt-out, but they don't, because you're willing to put up with it.

2) There have been and continue to be attacks upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Without getting into a lengthy debate, let me point out that while the Constitution does not specifically give one the right to travel freely, it is considered implied. Go to college. They teach this.

3) Naked body scanners and sexual assault will not make us safer. If you were to but some thought and effort into it, you could probably come up with 5 different ways, at least, to sneak something past security. I don't suggest you do and I'm not implying anyone should. My point is, if you can think of it, so can a terrorist. That is why countries with real terror problems don't do the stupid things the US does.

To those saying you have no right to fly:

You have an explicit right to be protected from unreasonable searches. This is one. You have an explicit right to free assembly. This can interfere with that. You have an implicit right to free travel. This violates that.

To those saying 'if it keeps me safe':

It won't. None of the methods above are likely to detect any of the attacks that have been used so far, except for box openers, and those can be replaced with any number of other common items (a sharp pencil, anyone?). Not only that, but the odds of getting cancer from the machines is about the same as the odds your airplane will be attacked by terrorists. That's a slim chance, sure, but considering the one doesn't prevent the other, the TSA is actually doubling the risk of flying. Also, Benjamin Franklin said something about such thought processes. He said you deserve neither safety nor freedom.

To those saying 'this is our best option':

No it isn't. The US Border Patrol has been doing a very similar job with very similar restrictions for years and years. Do you know how they do it? They use dogs. Dogs that actually can detect powdered explosives (or drugs, or plastics, or whatever). Dogs that don't violate your privacy.

I dont know how much the TSA is aware of this but there's been over 10,000 images leaked of body scans.

So whatever the TSA is saying to comfort us is a crock O $#!*. They have leaked and will most likely continue to leak. Nothing is safe with Big Bro. Check out the link.

http://www.disinfo/2010/11/one-hundred-naked-citizens-one-hundred-leaked-body-scans-video/

The TSA should be ashamed.



I don't care if they have a naked picture of me and even if they post it on the web. But many of you are missing the point. The terrorists have achieved their goal. Now it takes forever to catch an airplane, because of the security measures. Our government has spent billions ramping up security. Are we really any safer?

Now I have to pee in a bottle to prove I'm not on drugs, I have to wear a seatbelt when I ride in a car, a helmet is required when riding a motorcycle, and I have to have health insurance or pay a fine. The list goes on. Our freedom is slowly being taken away one item at a time. I went to the Masters in Augusta and had to give up my pocket knife (2" blade) before I could enter; maybe they thought I was going to highjack a golfer! Here in my home state of NC it's aginst the law to smoke in bars. I don't smoke but tobacco is one of our largest crops and it brings tons of revenue into the state. We are ruled by a bunch of nuts.

The bottom line is (no pun intended);

You take a risk when you fly. We need to stop allowing our government to scare us into giving up our privacy/rights. These scanners and feel-ups are reactive not proactive and give fliers a VERY false sense of security.

If this is allowed. What's next??

The "terrorists" have already thought of ways to get their weapons on board planes. Maybe they will hide them in openings inside their bodies or have a bomb, made out of plastic, surgically inserted into their bodies (these are suicide mission after all), or.......

So, when (GOD forbid) this happens are we then going to be scared into allowing the government/ TSA to search every opening of our bodies or visually check our naked bodies for surgical scares!?? Not to mention allowing someone to do this to our children!??

These "Terrorist" have victimised the US enough...and I will NOT live as a victim, I will NOT live in fear, and I will NOT allow ANYONE to violate my rights, my privacy, my body, or my children.

More plane crashes are caused by reason other than "Terrorists". The flying public should be more worried about a crash from plane malfunction, pilot error, natural disaster, a flock of birds getting sucked into an engine, or any number of things that can go wrong other than a "Terrorist" attack.

There is no amount of searching, violating, screening, or security that is going to guarantee that your plane will make it to your destination safely.

We should have; screenings within reason, metal detectors, baggage checks, wandings, explosive & drug trained K-9, security and possible other safety measures that haven't been invented yet.

Just my thoughts! To each their own....but be careful what you ask for. God Bless America!

@Merimoangel - A strategy employed on children is to give them two "choices," so they choose something the parent wants them to. The child is fooled into thinking it was his choice. You are missing it ("I still have my rights ... I do get to choose what type of screening"), but you have to be screened to get on an airplane - so the terrorists have won because our government has taken away our rights through the screening process.

Re: "I gave implyed permission by stepping into the machine, it's either that or get throughly gropped by a security person. Either way, I still have my rights and I do get to choose what type of screening I want."

louieboy....right to fly commercial air is in the constitution right after the right to carry automatic weapons with armor piercing ammo. The founding fathers did not anticipate air travel or automatic weapons when they wrote the constitution.

Put another way, you either give a perv the opportunity to squirrel away a picture of you naked, or let a serial molester who has been coping feels all day long, cop a feel on you, too.

hey adamst, please go back to watching tv. you obviously do not see what is going on. There will be plenty of right stripping measures for you to endure while you suck your thumb. So while the rest of us try to fight for the country and freedom that we love, sit back on your couch and enjoy your reality shows.

u dont get it cuz you walk with horse blinders on and or are front runner for LEGALIZE IT and your eyes are stoned shut.

This is the United States of America remember that country? the one where we had the some rights before bush the moron declared us FREE while signing all sorts of bills making us not free wihe invading iraq for no reason.....

Bdbyace28, I would really like you to share your fight for freedom. Afghanistan? Iraq? Maybe you've traipsed through the mountains of Pakistan looking for Bin Laden! Bspurloc is right, its the B*sh regime that started us down the path of "secret security." How funny that its an off shoot of his party complaining the most!

Personally, I don't care much. These images really don't appear too revealing anyway. But I can see some people taking issue with it. They have the option of being groped. If they don't like that either, maybe they should consider just not flying if they can avoid it.

My bigger concern is about how effective this really is. Could they really have detected the underwear bomber? My understanding is these scans only penetrate a couple millimeters if that. Seems to me, you could still hide a substantial amount of material. And suppose the amount concealable is too small to bring down a plane, what's to say you don't send 10 or more conspirators on the same flight, only to assemble the device in flight. No matter how good the mousetrap, some will figure out how to defeat it.

Israel and other countries have been pretty successful with interview based screening. I don't understand why we haven't adopted a similar approach. They claim it can be done as quickly as our methods, but could require more and better trained personnel. You have to realize too, that over there, most everyone getting on a plane would fit a stereotyped terrorist's "appearance".

Sometimes we tend to look for technological solutions to problems that don't fit that approach. This may be one of them. I think sometimes we do that because we see it as the cheapest, most convenient solution and it ends up costing more and being less effective than simpler methods. I'm all for technology, but it's never flawless.

You've got to wonder if there's room for a "private" airlines that doesn't use any screening. Would people use that if it were of similar cost? I wonder, if that could have a future. I may be wrong but I think the people from Muslim countries tend to be even more modest than most Americans. Maybe a rich Arab nation could form a semi-private airlines catering to it's people and not using these invassive screening methods. I'm not sure where the TSA draws the line, but I betting the private executive fliers don't have to go through this. Anybody know? Haven't flown private for a long time. So maybe you would have another option of flying "Muslim Air". Wouldn't that be ironic?

Of course I'm only half serious here, but it seems to me that we've been going about this all wrong from the beginning. To me it's more practical to develop one on one, face to face screening similar to the Israelis and also have air marshals on every flight. Yes this takes a lot of people, but so what? Combine that with the best technology you have for sniffing out explosives and passively screen all passengers and cargo.

The reason terrorists even use suicide bombers is that it's cheap and has a psychological impact. I think they're probably pleased that air passengers have to go through all this screening and controversy. It means they've had an impact. It causes us to spend our wealth and it keeps them on our minds. Everyone who spends an hour in an airport or on a plane can't avoid at least thinking about it and many are actually quite scared. That's part of their goal. They only need to remind us every so often, that they're still there, to keep the fear alive.

If you think about 9-11 in the simplest of terms, using planes as a weapon, we really haven't done that much to eliminate that threat. All we've done is make some known attemps at it less feasible. I'm convinced there's all sorts of scenarios we haven't even addressed. Sometimes we get so focused on looking at trees, that we don't see the forest.

So what? it's not like they're gonna know your name, or like you're gonna find out they're making fun of you... probably half of the people you've met have made fun of you behind your back, same concept... same shxt

If the scan were totally anonymous, there would be no point; so if the perv in the back room likes what he sees there is a way to connect your naked picture to you.

take a look at the tsa agents..... u can see 90% of them were quick highers that couldnt get a job at walmart.....

wait till the next terrorist attempt they hide the stuff up their rectum.... then see what happens....

Osama is no dummy, it is sad most americans are.

Get over it people, the TSA people are so bored with your xray nude outline and having to pat people down they may lose all interest in opposite sex forever. You are just not that special and nobody really cares what you look like in xray vision. They just don't care, it is a job that pays 12 an hour and they just want to get to their next break. Stop taking yourselves so seriously, nobody else does !

If tsa can grope you, why not wal-mart?

Don't give those greeters any ideas! ;)

Seriously, what's next? Free colorectal screening with every flight?

They already admit that a determined terrorist could get something on the plane by hiding it in his rectum because these scans only show the surface; so the next obvious step would be full body cavity searches.

The real purpose of these gropes is to force you to consent to be scanned; so the more shocking the "pat down", the better it suites their purpose.

Interesting points. Indeed, if a terrorist is going to blow himself up he wouldn't have a problem stuffing a device up his rectum. I wonder how much explosive you can pack into a few feet of colon.

Already been done, rabbittrick. An Islamic extremist terrorist originally from Saudi Arabia wanted to target some important intelligence official (I think it was, or maybe a member of the Saudi royal family) who was almost impossible to get to. So he had his brother pretend he was an informant, put explosives up his rectum, and arranged a meeting with the official with the ruse that he was going to tell them where to find his brother. Of course, he was thoroughly searched before the meeting, but not thoroughly enough. By a miracle, when the brother detonated th explosive, some piece of furniture in the room protected the official, and he survived with just the terrorist's blood and body parts on him.

His own brother!!!! Some use their wives or even their own children!!!! These Islamic extremists are truly the most evil scum on earth that we're fighting!!!

condew

You're exactly right. I have a neurological disorder that can be set off by the over stimulation to nerve endings caused by radiation. My punishment for that is an enhanced hand meant for shock and awe up my crotch.

Wow omg my brotha! I just said the EXACT same thing! *high five*, this was my comment to some guy:

So what? it's not like they're gonna know your name, or like you're gonna find out they're making fun of you... probably half of the people you've met have made fun of you behind your back, same concept... same shxt

Here are two people that work for TSA or do not have a wife, daughter or grandchild.

Actually I'm sure they do, and don't don't want them to be murdered by some lunatic with a bomb in his underwear.

Or visable genitals.

>>Actually I'm sure they do, and don't don't want them to be murdered by some lunatic with a bomb in his underwear.

If they are so afraid why would they drive in a car? 40,000people die each year. Whats stopping them from killing everyone waiting in line for radation/groping session?

You do know the underwear bomber didn't have a passport and his father contacted authorities months before warning them.

I do have a wife, which maybe be part of the reason that I dont understand why someone seeing a poor quality outline of a naked human body is a big deal. I kind of got over being excited/embarassed about nudity when I was about 15 so I don't understand why there is such a do to over this. And what does driving in a car have to do with airport security. Really a terrorist could put a bomb anywhere at anytime, but so far they have targeted airplanes so thats why this measure has been taken. this has nothing to do with rights being taken away. If you are that uptight and have nothing better to do with your life than worry about such ridiculous things like this then you have every right not to fly, but if you chose to fly then just got through the scanner or let someone feel you up and don't waste another second thinking about it. When your on you death bed are you going to be thinking about some random person seeing a bad naked outline of you or are you going to be thinking about something a little more important.

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First, the pictures they keep are not the fuzed images they publicize, but the full resolution image. And what's to keep them from posting the picture on the internet and then your friends, family, everyone you do business with from then seeing you in your full glory.

@ Janice-2679432 And you know this how? Do you have evidence back up your claim?

I think you are full of BS.

This first: If people are so worried about being seen through a x-ray scan of there body,chances are... you are overweight, or just plain FAT...! Solution...? lose some weight and take some pride in your appearance. I am willing to bet that most of the complainers here are just that...FAT.

Second: They do not publish names and addresses to the people scanning you...That is not what this is about. They don't give a crap to begin with. It is about knowing whether or not you have a ceramic knife taped to your leg...Or some crazy type of explosive...Personally...I would feel much safer knowing that on my way to Thailand on a 20 hour flight,nobody is going to cut my throat or anyone elses for that matter...The stress of being in the air that long is enough... And since I have a pretty nice body,I would be willing to get completely undressed...(might get a couple phone numbers from people that are NOT fat...)

Third: Janice...If you are so worried that the people you "do business with" or anyone else seeing you, or will recognize YOUR ex-ray (should it leak out),then you have been a bad girl...Have a good flight...

Sure, any schmo could do that. But, their officers adhere to the highest professional standards.

Yeh, sure, you bet. Until somebody has an idea for a cool new website.

At the airport in San Francisco...TSA has subcontracted a private company to do the screening...

Question #1) Who screens their employees ??...are they on a prison work release program ??

Question #2) Is Nancy Pelosi connected in any way with this company ??

Question #3) Can you be GLBT and still work there, and have lots and lots of fun all day long ???

Question #4) Can I still get a toy in my Happy Meal in San Francisco ???

Or, instead of a website, selling the photos. Imagine if someone famous goes through the scanners---the media would pay good money to have that picture. What would prevent TSA officials from selling them?

@Mike in DelRay... really? how about all those straight people who still work there and have lots of fun all day long? What a homophobic thing to say, and I am straight !! Unbelievable.

My guess is that Mike in Delray had absolutely NO PROBLEM when George W. Bush was violating our liberties with the Patriot Act. We know that VP Cheney had links to Halliburton, but that sure didn't keep up from using them all over Iraq. Get a grip, and stay out of the airport. THAT would make my life so much better.

most truly famous people fly privately lol so they never will pass through one of those scanners.

Actually MShannon8180, they keep pointing out you will be patted down by someone of the same sex. If you're straight, you won't be patting down someone you're interested in. For the GLBT folk however, you could be patting down someone you're interested in.

Mike in DelRay wasn't being homophobic at all.

Sure and its been reported that George Soros, that BIG contributor to the Democrat party and about every other left wing nut organzation to come along owns a LARGE share in one of the major scanner companies ( and probably ALL of them) Wonder why this "technology" is being installed at all the airports and the chief democrat appointee in charge is so defensive of it. Then there are all the lobyists in Washington greasing the palms of the Congressmen too. So much for "honest Government" "protecting" the RIGHTS of the citizen.

MShannon8180...You were pretty quick to play the Homophobe Card...If you are a gay male, you will be handling guy's "junk" all day long. If you are a lesbian woman you'll be giving breast rubs and full palm groove checks....Why ??....because the TSA in it's infinate wisdom says Only MEN will do Men ....and only WOMEN will do WOMEN....Got it ???

Mark-60126....The Bush card is the best you can do ???

I did notice however that neither one of you answered any of my serious questions. Well, OK, #4 wasn't really serious...

Actually, If they caught you in the scanner carrying something worth arresting you for, then they would have the actual object for the courts. Why would they even need the Scan image at that point?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm???

They'll eventually need the scan pictures to prove reasonable search when they get sued for searching someone that wasn't a terrorist. It'll be someone with a 3rd nipple or something strange but since it will "appear suspicious" that person will have a very bad day. Once the lawsuits happen they will turn on the saving of pictures so they can defend themselves in court. We have been on a slippery slope with our civil liberties for several years now so it's important we defend even our little freedoms or soon we won't have any.

to prove they didnt search you illegally.

oh... wait... theres no such thing as illegal searches in an airport anymore, its called "security screening"

@ caliman....They don't need the picture as evidence...They will have it in their HANDS...and YOU by the ba!!s...

just because they use the power of the government to FORCE you to endure a invasive search of your body DOES NOT mean its legal no matter WHAT they call it; Rape is Rape and an illegal search STINKS by any name.

Oh my! Just think of all those nurses, doctors and other health care professionals who are getting off every time they hand you one of those split "gowns", or have to pull the covers back so they can get you settled on a bed pan, or - heaven forbid! Wash your privates!

Grow up people!

No comparison!! These people ARE NOT doctors or nurses.

Why are people so willing to give up what little shred of dignity we have left in the name of "security"?

How many years of school and practicums and training do TSA agents go through? If TSA is really on the same level as RNs/MDs/etc, then they should be making a lot more money than they do...

Ethically - YES they are on the same level.

It was a DOCTOR that made inappropriate moves on my wife NOT a TSA worker

No ME2577212, They are NOT on the same level, they have already found pedophiles and other perverts that have been HIRED by the TSA even after their supposed "Security Clearance" reviews, one guy had at least 4 different ID cards and names he used. They are joe schmoo's hired off the street because they know somebody, have friends in the right places or fit an ethnic profile. No real training and demand for "professionalism" and NO right to lay hands on your body without probable cause.

we should all be grateful for that genius of a cowboy, W..... when he chose so wisely to ignore warnings that we were about to be attacked using hijacked aircraft, he immediately knew in his texas size heart that the best thing to do was stay on vacation. All we would have to do is double the size of government by creating a homeland security thingy and everyone would be safer. All we would have to do is triple the national debt to keep taxpayers' money busy.

No one is mentioning what even the lowest dose does to the delicate thyroid gland.

dont boycott them. destroy them.

No one will dare frisk my 3 yr old grandson, that's all I have to say.

You're a retard. Go ahead and try to boycott the scanners but all that'll happen is you being on the wrong side of security while you miss your flight. They won't lose any money because some guy who's embarassed by the size of his wee wee doesn't want to go through the scanner.

Actually, you may want to take a look at your own opening comment, 2679960. After that, you can realize that the airlines will loose money, big money, because so many people will opt out of flying. And, if you miss your flight because of these goons, you can get your ticket refunded.

Communications 101:

Ensure brain is in gear before engaging mouth.

I'm guessing your a TSA agent looking to keep your job.

With a VIVID imagination.

They have already started deploying mobile scanners http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/08/24/full-body-scan-technology-deployed-in-street-roving-vans/

I'm guessing the people that don't mind the scanners didn't research the technology or the risk assocated with it.

"Our officers adhere to the highest professional standards...we are confident our policy is followed."

Yeah, right!!! How ignorant do they think we are? It's an insult.

I agree. These people are not trained professionals. Ever see the ones sitting there looking at the scanner when your carry-ons go through, they miss better then half the stuff. Most are laughing or talking and making $10 an hr. I feel real safe with that?? Our government is a joke. Profiling is the only way we will stop these arrogant muslims from destroying us. Profile, Profile, Profile, who the hell cares if it offends them. This government and country better wake up. Do you think the terrorists are only going after planes? Then think again. What about the subways in England, our own twin towers. All this BS technology is just that, BS.

Would you rather your five-year-old be groped or irradiated, your free choice!

Neither!!! Anyone that tries to grope my grandson will be spitting teeth.

Tina, you act tough but TSA agents will search your grandkid if they want to. And they won't be spitting teeth. That's ridiculous.

I think I want to mix it up a little:

"grope or scan?"

"Uhm, can you like, grope my butt and crotch, but scan me everywhere else? Thanks!"

tallone: If you are clever you will read in the article that the person in the image is a employee of the security company and this scan is an image from testing the machine.

If you are not clever, you will think this is an image from a random person at a random airport.

That's the same sort of conservative BS I hear often "But you are FREE to CHOOSE ...". Often it is used as: You have a right to free speech, but your employer has a right to make your life a living hell if he doesn't like what you say. Put another way, you are saying it is OK to punish and inconvenience a person who demands their civil rights. The right against unreasonable search and seizure is the bedrock of our justice. When you start to debate how much a person can be forced to suffer for their rights, you are saying there are no rights.

Some people are not free to choose other methods of transportation. If you have an important business meeting on the opposite coast tomorrow, you sure as hell arent driving there. And while you could make the argument that technology has made it unnecessary to travel to communicate with others, not everyone has access to technology that advanced.

If youre in Cleveland and your boss says "we need you in Shanghai by tomorrow night" you dont exactly get to choose between flying and taking a cruise liner.

They are also using the scanners and pat-downs at federal buildings, courthouses, etc. You're not necessarily "free" not to go there (jury duty, for example). Now what, well-named subgenius?

Actually, I got summoned for jury duty and I chose not to go. Nothing happened. I hate that the government is increasingly taking away our privacy rights and spying on us. I fear its going to get much worse in the future. However I dont care if someone sees a black and white image of my body for the sake of security. I think the only people truley upset about this are overweight women. They are the crazy ones who have been programmed to hate their bodies even though most men don't mind a little extra to love.

@Ryan, wait till you get pulled over for a ticket or other offense and you find out that there is a bench warrent out for your arrest, wont you be surprised.

You see when you fail to report to jury duty they issue a bench warrent, it all depends on the court if they do or do not go looking for you but at some point you will come in contact with the law and be arrested. Real smart move if i were you I would call in and tell them you just forgot, at least that way you might get out of jail time.

Jury duty is a civil duty that we all have to do. By serving on a jury you are ensuring another person recieves their constitutional rights.

First, I am in no way close to being a conservative nor libertarian.

Still, some seem to be confusing 'rights' with privileges.

You have a right to free speech; you do not have the right to disclose proprietary information about your employer, or to libel someone. You also do not have the right to force people to listen to your free speech.

You have the PRIVILEGE to travel. Air travel is not an "inalienable right" last time I checked.

Not trying to sound like the right-wingnut extremists, but how about the civil rights of the passengers of all four planes in 911? They are dead, but nobody got their junk touched (through cloth) in boarding. Invading a country that wasn't responsible is criminal. Raising security checks at airports is very reasonable.

Even if a job 'requires' you to travel, there still is no-one holding you at gunpoint to fly and again, nothing in the Constitution guarantees the right to air travel. Stupid assertion. Business still happened before airplanes were invented. Don't confuse convenience with a 'right'.

Uh, ok, I'll take the ad-hominum attack "real american". Thanks. To answer your question, sure, I had to put my crap in a locker just to pay a parking ticket, but they facilitated the locker for free. I was neither inconvenienced nor had my rights restricted. Unless my 'right' to bring a potential shiv into the courthouse was in question...

This whole issue was essentially manufactured by someone with an agenda. That blogger hack had his camera running before he even approached the line. He had his own agenda to stir the fire and he accomplished just that. And make no mistake, he was provided a full refund because he didn't agree to terms. Moreover, he was not detained unnecessarily. He was free to leave once he would not agree to the search. Personally, I'd suspect someone that refuses a search far more than the rest. But these transit cops did their jobs well in the face of a 'gotcha' situation.

Actually, you are completely wrong.

49 U.S.C. § 40103 : US Code - Section 40103

Sovereignty and use of airspace

(2) A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace.

The right of the persons being (the airlines) and all passengers lives against terrorist acts Trumps your statement. Its their airplane, insurance, etc....the airlines and the government HAVE to protect you to protect themselves .........I think you may have forgotten who took away your freedoms....not the government but the terrorists!

cbt, the terrorists did NOT take away ANY of our freedoms. We have continued to give them up willingly out of FEAR.

A little at a time we give up our freedoms and ability to make choices.

So following the logic that these scans are unconstitutional, they shouldn't be allowed to search our luggage or x-ray our stuff then, should they? Let's just do away with all screening in the name of Freedom. That will speed things up, make it possible for more people to fly, and if someone does board with a bomb that's just the price we'll have to pay to be "free". And if more terrorists try to hijack planes to use as weapons, we stop them by rigging the planes with self-destruct buttons.

Who would want those images anyway? They look like something from Grey's Anatomy, the text book, not the show.

Pumpkin, if you allowed people to take what they want on planes, if the terrorists got on board with guns and tried to hijack the plane, many of the passengers would just shoot them.

Bombs, different story.

You feel for future generations?? Jesus, wl963852741! I feel for us for most of us don't seem to mind a bit! In the name of security, saith Herr Hitler and phfffffft! there goes your rights, there goes your privacy, there go the homosexuals, the pedophiles, the lame, the homeless, the mentally ill, and the jews. WE are the cretins that gave up in the name of national security. The future will curse us for being herded like sheep to the slaughterhouse. I feel sorry for us NOW! Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this picture????