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This illustration, appearing on the cover of the journal Nature, shows the six planets of the Kepler-11 system as they might have looked up close during a triple transit observed on Aug. 26, 2010. The Kepler probe couldn't produce direct imagery of the planets, but it could detect the dip in starlight caused by the transit.
Astronomers behind NASA's $600 million Kepler mission say they’ve detected a star system that packs six planets inside a space that would fit within the orbit of Venus in our own solar system. It’s the marquee event for this week’s “big reveal” from the most sensitive planet-hunting probe ever launched.
It's also a huge puzzle for planetary scientists.
The worlds around a star now known as Kepler-11 rank as the "most densely packed planetary system known," said Jack Lissauer, a researcher at NASA's Ames Research Center. Lissauer is one of the principal authors of a study about the Kepler-11 system, published in this week's issue of the journal Nature.
The six planets range in size from two to four times as wide as Earth, with orbital periods that go from 10 to 118 Earth days. The lightest of the planets is only about twice as massive than Earth. But unlike the close-in "super-Earth" that was reported by the Kepler team last month, none of these worlds is anywhere near as dense as our own planet. If the Kepler team's figures are right, ice or gas must make up a significant proportion of their mass.
"It is clear that such planets need not resemble the earth in any way, which adds to our incredible planetary diversity," astronomer Jonathan Fortney, a member of the research team from the University of California at Santa Cruz, told journalists. "If connections to our solar system can be drawn at all, the low-mass planets in the Kepler-11 system appear to be more like small Neptunes than massive Earths."
Such low-mass, low-density planets are "truly astounding," Alan Boss, a planetary scientist at the Carnegie Institution for Science, told me in an e-mail.
"No theorist would have been nutty (or brave) enough to have claimed that a planetary system like this one might exist," he said. "Yet it does."
Lissauer said he rated the findingas the "biggest thing in exoplanets" since the 1995 discovery of 51 Pegasi, the first extrasolar planet detected around a sunlike star. Yale astronomer Debra Fischer, a planet-hunting pioneer who was not involved in the Kepler-11 study, agreed. "With five low-mass planets in the system, this discovery is as momentous as 51 Peg was in 1995," she said today during a NASA news briefing.
"Kepler is actually reaching the milestone discoveries faster than certainly I anticipated," Fischer said. "Kepler has blown the lid off of everything that we know about extrasolar planets, and this week to me feels very different than last week did."
15 confirmed planets, 1,200 candidates
Today's announcement boosts the Kepler mission's count of confirmed planets to 15, less than two years after the van-sized spacecraft was launched from Cape Canaveral. From its Earth-trailing orbit, Kepler has been focusing on an area of the sky in the constellations Cygnus and Lyra, staring at more than 150,000 stars simultaneously. The probe's telescope documents the tiny dips in starlight that could signal the passage of a planet across a star's disk.
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This graphic compares the sizes of Jupiter and Earth with the nine Kepler planets that were previously confirmed (above the line) as well as the six planets reported today (below the line). The term "RE" indicates the radius of the planet in terms of the radius of Earth.
Eventually Kepler should find thousands of new planets beyond our solar system, adding to a list that now amounts to more than 500. Just this week, the science team listed a fresh batch of 1,200 planetary candidates, including more than 50 planets that appear to be in the "habitable zones" of their respective star systems.
Not all of those candidates will be confirmed as planets. Some will turn out to be eclipsing binary stars or other phenomena that can mimic the dimming caused by a planet. But in time, astronomers expect to find hundreds of Earthlike planets in Earthlike orbits around sunlike stars. Kepler's census should shed new light on an age-old question: How prevalent are the conditions that could give rise to life in the universe?
If you were looking for life as we know it, you wouldn't look in the Kepler-11 system, which is about 2,000 light-years from Earth. Five of the planets orbit closer to their parent star than Mercury does around our own sun — much closer than the "habitable zone" where life as we know it could exist.
Finding so many worlds in one faraway planetary system is notable, but not unprecedented. Last year, astronomers using a different detection method found a star system that has at least five and perhaps as many as seven planets. Lissauer said the key distinction here is that the planets are so close to each other, circling in a disk that is proportionally flatter than a vinyl record.
"It's just totally unexpected to have this much material, to be able to get a planetary system where planets can be this close to another, that there can be so many of them, that they can be so flat," he said. "It's really a sense of extremes there."
The other curious thing about Kepler-11 is that the planets are close to the mass of Earth, but must be structured like ice giants or gas giants to account for their low density. "How in the world they formed is going to be a headache for theorists for some time to come," Boss told me.
NASA / Nature
This chart graphically shows the estimates of the new planets' radius and mass, as well as how they would fit in among the solar system's planets and other worlds that have been discovered (Kepler-10b and CoRoT-7b). The newly discovered planets (shown in blue) are more similar in composition to Uranus and Neptune than to Earth and Venus.
UC-Santa Cruz's Fortney said the findings suggest that the composition of planets up to 10 times as massive as our own can be "extremely variable."
Lissauer said it's "more likely than not" that astronomers will be detecting more of these mini-Neptunes than super-Earths. But that doesn't mean the search for alien Earths will be fruitless, as demonstrated by the Kepler mission's latest batch of planet candidates.
"There could very well be as many true Earth analogs as people have previously suspected," Lissauer told me. "Over the next two, three, four years, Kepler will be weighing in on that. It just takes a long time for us to collect enough data to address that question directly."
To untangle the complicated orbital dynamics of the Kepler-11 system, scientists tracked the apparent planets' movements for months. Usually, astronomers can confirm the existence of distant planets by checking for slight gravitational wobbles in the star that they orbit. But in Kepler-11's case, the planets were too small and the star was too far away to use that method. Instead, the Kepler team worked out the timing of the planets' movements so precisely that they could figure out their masses using those calculations alone.
"The timing of the transits is not perfectly periodic, and that is the signature of the planets gravitationally interacting," Daniel Fabrycky, a postdoctoral researcher at UC-Santa Cruz, explained in a news release. "By developing a model of the orbital dynamics, we worked out the masses of the planets and verified that the system can be stable on long time scales of millions of years."
The same method should come in handy as Kepler gathers more data on potential alien Earths. "We expect to be doing a lot of those analyses," Fabrycky said.
In addition to Lissauer, Fabrycky and Fortney, the authors of the Nature paper, "A Closely Packed System of Low-Mass, Low-Density Planets Transiting Kepler-11," include Eric B. Ford, William J. Borucki, Francois Fressin, Geoffrey W. Marcy, Jerome A. Orosz, Jason F. Rowe, Guillermo Torres, William F. Welsh, Natalie M. Batalha, Stephen T. Bryson, Lars A. Buchhave, Douglas A. Caldwell, Joshua A. Carter, David Charbonneau, Jessie L. Christiansen, William D. Cochran, Jean-Michel Desert, Edward W. Dunham, Michael N. Fanelli, Thomas N. Gautier III, John C. Geary, Ronald L. Gilliland, Michael R. Haas, Jennifer R. Hall, Matthew J. Holman, David G. Koch, David W. Latham, Eric Lopez, Sean McCauliff, Neil Miller, Robert C. Morehead, Elisa V. Quintana, Darin Ragozzine, Dimitar Sasselov, Donald R. Short and Jason H. Steffen.
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I know someone else will bring it up (and I may end up w/ a double post), but can someone more educated than me on this comment on the "clearing local space" issue. I think I remember a regular poster wondering about the possibility of a cluster of Saturn-sized planets orbiting together. This isn't there, but it seems close.
I had thought after looking at article that they might have been saturn-like in the past but had their orbits change to spiral inward with a great deal of mass eliminated and the remaining mass expanded to take up more space because of heating of the gasses in them.
Here is 2 links to calculators that can show the interior and exterior gravitational reach
You may also find a gravity simulator a
There is a nice forum there where you can ask questions.
Looks like it dropped the links
orbitsimulator.com is the main site. do a bing or google search for formulas with that as the site to search and it'll show the link
What type of star is this? Is it a Sun-like star or a dimmer red dwarf?
Readers might be interested in knowing that anyone can volunteer to help process the Kepler data, thereby assisting the search for planets. Just visit http://www.planethunters.org
"Kepler has blown the lid off of everything that we know about extrasolar planets"....that really says it all. This is like a bunch of second graders taking a field trip to Rockwell inc. for a day and watching the workers as they build the shuttlecraft.....then coming back to class and trying to write a technical document on how to build a spacecraft.....not to imply that the astronomers are 2nd graders but the analogy may be more generous than the truth....and these cosmologists got advanced degrees I ain't never heard of at that!!
I am glad to see the percentage of possible planets in 150000 is rising.....also I really do understand why they made observations for months before releasing thier conclusions on kepler 11....even still I question their sanity, chidingly though...I believe what is really needed now is some direct observation...and saying that life on these five planets as we know it is unlikely, it is that as we know it part, perhaps if there are that many planets that close, the probablity of life as we DO NOT know it is very much increased, perhaps 5 fold!!.....keeping in mind our expierence though, we can say just about anything conclusive, knowing all we are doing is impressing ourselves...sadly we can't prove much at all....I hope this target will be increased in priority for the james webb telescope when it comes online...in the meantime a bet thier are a lot of pro and some amateur stargazers calculating right now how to get more data on this system...
for the record, I believe something else is at work here to dip the optical signature in this manner...but, if these guys are second graders then I am but a lowly bystander wondering what they do in school all day, er, put another way, my commenst don't even rank as critisicm (they can tell that by the crayons and spelling...hehe:)
now for the speculation...none of these systems are, in realtime, right here, right now, where we see them, and of course when we see them..as a thought experiment, to be an astronaut in that system right now would mean is is several light years further along the galaxys circulation....where that would put them in relation to sol right now is something I would like to know and reflects a program I have been toying with for about a decade now (with little progress)..also the state of the sytem will surely of changed as well...if there was life there, perhaps it is gone now and if there was not, perhaps it has developed or migrated to kepler 11 by now...very much speculation but a very good point when we finally conclude that one of keplers target is a goldilocks in the goldilocks zone.
In the meantime, keep it up Alan, I like all the links and the comprehensive easy read style, I am only too happy to start here before perusing the other journals, it gives me a better focus of what to seek whilst wading through the pool of sci data published out there...in the meantime, note the planet hunters web site listed above, what better way to help science.
More and more of these close-in gas-giant type planets orbiting in very close proximity to their star?! I know you can not count it out, but come on! There have been some doubts on gravity physics based on speculated dark matter and such, but something is truly amiss in our understanding of gravity physics in all these "captures" of supposed plantetary orbits. I would definitely be investigating gravity physics right now...something isn't right here.
How could an Ice planet exist in an orbit closer than Venus? The article said that it was too close to be in a habitable zone...
NASA's Revised Designations for Exoplanets:
Goldilocks: Inhabited by bears
Rapunzel: inhabited by hairy beings
Snow white: inhabited by dwarves
Cinderella: inhabited by transmogrifying pumpkins
Alice: inhabited by shoes, ships, sealing wax and walruses
Tinker bell: inhabited by pirates
O.k it says "ice or gas must make up a significant proportion of their mass." Not that they are a gas or ice planet. Which leads me to think that the planet could be tidally locked, therefore one side always faces it's star which then the dark side could be ice.
Not if they have a dense atmosphere.
Don't believe one word of it. Just more BS science from NASA.