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Columbia physicist Brian Greene inhabits a multiple-perspective landscape modeled after M.C. Escher's artwork in a scene from the NOVA series based on his 1999 best-seller, "The Elegant Universe." Greene says his latest book, "The Hidden Reality," ranges over an even broader cosmic canvas. Click on the image to watch the NOVA program.
Is it preposterous to consider the existence of parallel universes? Or is it preposterous not to? Physicist Brian Greene would tend toward the latter view.
The Columbia University theoretical physicist's latest book, "The Hidden Reality: Parallel Universes and the Deep Laws of the Cosmos," follows up on his two earlier books for popular audiences, "The Elegant Universe" and "The Fabric of the Cosmos."
Those works presented step-by-step guides to string theory and space-time, respectively, leavened with pop-culture references and analogies drawn from everyday life (that is, if your idea of "everyday life" involves watching ants crawl on a power line). "The Hidden Reality" follows a similar formula, using slices of bread, "South Park" and the Wizard of Oz to explain weird ideas such as brane theory, the inflaton field and the holographic universe.
Greene doesn't explain just one scenario in which unreachable universes co-exist alongside our own. He delves into nine possibilities, drawn from different corners of scientific speculation. Is that too much speculation? Some folks think so.
Scientific American's John Horgan wrote that he used to get fired up over the idea that our universe was just one of many making up a grander "multiverse." But not anymore:
"Now, multiverse theories strike me as not only unscientific but also immoral, for two basic reasons: First, at a time when we desperately need science to help us solve our problems, it's irresponsible for scientists as prominent as Greene to show such a blithe disregard for basic standards of evidence. Second, like religious visions of paradise, multiverses represent an escapist distraction from our world."
Over at the Not Even Wrong blog, a colleague of Greene's at Columbia, mathematician Peter Woit, has his own set of moral qualms:
"My own moral concerns about the multiverse have more to do with worry that pseudo-science is being heavily promoted to the public, leading to the danger that it will ultimately take over from science, first in the field of fundamental physics, then perhaps spreading to others."
Woit goes on to catalog all the books that have come out or are about to come out that make reference to the multiverse, including "From Eternity to Here," "In Search of the Multiverse," "The Grand Design" and "Visions of the Multiverse" just in the past year. Does the world really need another book on the subject?
As a string theorist, Greene is used to such criticism. Like parallel universes, the idea that matter's fundamental building blocks are tiny vibrating strings or multidimensional membranes has often been knocked as unprovable, unverifiable, unfalsifiable speculation. Lawrence Krauss, a theoretical physicist at Arizona State University, is fond of saying that string theory's vision of a "theory of everything" is actually a "theory of anything" that turns out being a "theory of nothing."
"That's provocative nonsense," Greene told me last week. Theorists are not just pulling this stuff out of thin air, he said. Rather, they're being led to seemingly wild conclusions while working within what he called "the tight straitjacket of mathematics."
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"The Hidden Reality" is Columbia physicist Brian Greene's latest literary excursion to the frontiers of physics. Click on the image to read an excerpt.
In a telephone interview conducted during his book tour, Greene addressed the suggestion that multiverse theory was an empty exercise, and explained why scientists have to take parallel universes seriously. Take a look at this edited transcript of the Q&A, read an excerpt from the book, and then let me know what you think in the comment space below:
Cosmic Log: Some people have said, "Oh, no, not another book about the multiverse ... all these things we can't see, all these claims that we can't prove. Why do we need another book about this subject when there have been so many already? And isn't it all speculation anyway?"
Brian Greene: Well, when we are doing mathematical investigations in physics, we as theorists allow the math to take us where it will go. We have seen, time and again, that math is a very potent guide to revealing the true nature of reality. That's what the past couple of hundred years have established. So all we're doing is following the same kinds of procedures that we always have. And as we follow the procedures, as we push the mathematics forward, the math is clearly suggesting that there may be other universes out there.
That does not mean that there are. It does mean, however, that there's a compelling enough reason to take these ideas seriously, develop them further, and try to make contact with observation and experiment. I fully agree that none of these hypothetical ideas can be put within the canon of established physics until there is some kind of observational confirmation. But you can't get to that point unless you understand the theories extraordinarily well. And that's what a lot of cutting-edge physics is now doing.
Q: In your book you talk about several types of parallel universes. What do you mean by the term? Often people have the conception of traveling back in time, or living in a quantum world where you're having a drink at a bar and yet not having a drink. In the TV series "Fringe," there are parallel universes in conflict with each other. People have a lot of conceptions about what a parallel universe means, but what does it mean to a scientist?
A: We have for a long time had a conception of what a "universe" is. Look out at the cosmos, and it's the totality of the stars and the galaxies that are out there, everything that we in principle can see. But we have learned, through a variety of approaches in physics, that that notion of "everything" is possibly a small part of a far larger cosmos, a far grander reality.
I like to make this concrete with a simple example that I think helps ground the physics about this. We all know about the big bang, which is basically how our universe got started. The universe was very small in the distant past, it underwent a rapid expansion, and in the course of that expansion, the universe cooled down and allowed matter to coalesce into stars and galaxies.
Now, many people don't fully appreciate that this story of the big bang leaves out something very important: It leaves out the "bang." It leaves out the physical process that started the outward swelling of space in the first place. As we have developed mathematical tools to fill in that gap, to really understand what happened at the beginning, the math has indicated that the big bang may not have been a unique event. There may have been, and may continue to be, many big bangs — each of which gives rise to its own expanding universe, our universe being but one among many. In that sense, we are part of a multiverse.
Q: One of the more provocative ideas that you put forward in your book is the suggestion that there could be other versions of Brian Greene or Alan Boyle that are just slightly off, existing in some other quadrant of the multiverse. Have you gotten some raised eyebrows over that?
A: Well, it's a staggeringly strange idea, but again, we need to emphasize that it doesn't emerge from some scientist sitting in a dark room and letting his imagination run wild. This idea comes from the notion that the expanse of space goes on forever — that it's infinitely large. That's an idea that people have contemplated for a long time. In fact, I would say that the majority of physicists and astronomers, when they speak about space, they do envision it going on forever. Then it takes but a simple little mathematical exercise to establish that, in any finite region of space, matter can only arrange itself in finitely many configurations.
The analogy I like to use is a deck of cards. When you shuffle the deck, the cards come out in different orders, but there are only finitely many different orders of the cards. If you shuffle that deck infinitely many times, the orders necessarily will repeat. Similarly, in an infinite spatial universe, the arrangements of particles have to repeat, too. If they repeat, then indeed, things that we are familiar within the world around us — you, me, Earth, the sun, everything else — would repeat as well.
When one explains this idea to someone who hasn't heard it before, it is shocking at first — you're absolutely right. But when one takes in the mathematical argument and mulls it over, it becomes clear this is what would happen.
Q: That's just one of the nine options suggested for the existence of parallel universes. Do you have a favorite scenario?
A: It depends on how you measure the "favorites." The measure I'm most fond of is, "Which of these stands the greatest chance of receiving some experimental support in the not-too-distant future?" By that measure, I like to focus on the "brane multiverse" theory. That's this idea that string theory doesn't just contain strings. It also contains membranes — two-dimensional objects — and three-branes, which are three-dimensional objects, and so forth.
The brane multiverse imagines that all we have thought to be the universe actually takes place on one of these three-branes, with other three-branes potentially out there. The analogy I like to use is a loaf of bread, where our universe is one slice, but there are other slices out there populating this grander cosmos. And this idea of a brane multiverse can be tested at the Large Hadron Collider.
When you have powerful proton collisions, the math suggests that some of the debris from those collisions can be ejected off our brane, and we would notice that by virtue of having less energy after the collision than before — because the debris would take some of the energy away with it. People are looking for these kinds of missing-energy signatures. If the results prove positive — which, I absolutely need to underscore, I consider a long shot — then it would be evidence that we are living on one of these branes. If we are living on a brane, then there's really no reason to anticipate that our brane would be the only one. There would be other branes out there, other universes.
Q: What energy level would be required to see that sort of evidence?
A: It all depends on the size of the extra dimensions within which all these branes would be embedded. If the extra dimensions are very small, it takes increasingly large amounts of energy to get debris from the collisions to leave our brane and go into this tiny extradimensional space.
That's the unknown: If the dimensions are big enough, then the energies required would be within reach of the Large Hadron Collider. If the extra dimensions are small, then the Large Hadron Collider would not be able to cause this process to happen. So the best we can do is get some evidence that confirms the brane multiverse idea. It's pretty hard to get evidence that would flatly rule it out.
There's one point I want to get out about the book: It's not a "multiverse manifesto." It's not trying to say, "Look at this wonderful idea, and it's true." No. I'm saying, "Look at this curious idea that many leading scientists are thinking about" — including me, I do work on this stuff right now. Let's ask ourselves, "What's this all about? What's the mathematical motivation for thinking about it?" And I ask the question "Is this science?" How can we verify these ideas? What other insights do we need to acquire going forward, in order to make the multiverse idea something that fits squarely within confirmable or falsifiable science?
This idea is controversial for good reason. It is at the cutting edge — not only the cutting edge of science, but also the edge of the kinds of ideas that we want to embrace in science. That's what makes it exciting.
Q: You make the point that it's very difficult to have any sort of direct contact with other universes. The differences are just so great. The only way to conceptualize other universes, I suppose, is through mathematics and the bits of evidence that can be gleaned from particle collisions or the cosmic microwave background radiation. Is there any possible avenue to get substantive information about the bigger picture, or are we pretty much stuck in our own little corner of the multiverse?
A: I think we're certainly stuck physically. But I would not underestimate the power of mathematics to provide the kinds of insights you are referring to. We are definitely at a rudimentary state in our understanding of these multiverse proposals. But if we can refine that understanding, we could produce detailed "universe demographics." We could gain a very detailed understanding of the percentage of universes that would have this or that quality.
In fact, we might get lucky with a well-developed multiverse theory. We might find that universes differ in substantial ways, but we might also find that there are certain common features that all universes share — like a certain class of particle, for instance. Then, to adjudicate that multiverse proposal, all we would need to really do is look for those particles here in our universe. We're part of this multiverse, after all. If we fail to find those particles, we could rule out that proposed theory. It's falsifiable, even though we can't actually see the other universes. If we do find those particles, that would bolster our confidence that the theory is correct, as would be the case for other fields of experimental science.
My point is, I'm laying out the way in which various multiverse proposals could rise to the level of being testable, of being falsifiable. The mere fact that you can find ways to do that shows quite clearly that the subject can't simply be written off.
Q: You've had quite the range of experiences during your book tour — including an appearance on "The Colbert Report." [During his chat, Greene told host Stephen Colbert that he could be described as "a bag of particles governed by the laws of physics," leading Colbert to quip, "That is a great pickup line."] In a parallel universe, is there anything you'd want to change about the past few weeks?
A: Oh, goodness. ... If I could get a couple more hours of sleep in the day, that would be welcome. But that's about it.
... And that's about it from the interview as well. Read an excerpt from Chapter One of "The Hidden Reality" and let me know what you think.
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Many, if not all, past ideas we had about our "universe" were ridiculed and even looked down upon. Yet this is how we discovered most of what we currently know about the universe. The fact that this is not a single scientist or even a single science field that is coming up with this theory, should be proof enough that this may be a possibility. If there is anything we have learned from the past, it's that math is definitely a key for understanding our universe. If these scientist are coming up with this same possibility when utilizing the very strict world mathematics, I believe this notion of parallel universes merits credibility. I, like them, share excitement about the possibility of proving it or even observing it.
it is conceivable that our whole universe is contained within just a a single speck of microscopic dust in something infinitely larger.
agreed, my friend, agreed!!!
Horton hears a Who!!!
+1!!
How I realize I got my theory from Dr Suess. Forgot about Horton.
Well said, in fact the most intelligent of all the comments I've read to this article!
Smart does not mean intelligent... or logical!
@Robert L. Oldershaw
This is my problem with string theory and multiverses as well. It is entirely possible they are right. It is also entirely possible that they are generally right that there are multiverses and that string theory accounts for the existence of mass, etc. It is also entirely possible that they are on to something that we are still decades away from understanding on any reasonable level. There may be differences at the core between what theorists see and what the facts are in the same way that Michelson and Morley devised an experiment to detect the ether and, when it failed, said that the ether simply could not be detected. It was Einstein who issued it the kiss of death with his work in Relativity. String and Multiverse theory may both still be lacking their Einstein. In fact, they still may be lacking their Michelson-Morley experiment.
luminiferous aether = dark matter.
Neither one can be detected.
until the microscope was invented, the worlds of microrganisms were unknown. We are limited mostly by our perceptual equipment, how we are evolved and wired neurologically. new instrumentation like the Large hadron Collider will open more doors and show us aspects of the universe previously undetected. Nothing wrong with using mathematics to postulate new models, especially when there are some aspects that can be tested experimentally.
yup, just think, in the billions of years of the "univese's existence "we" did not even exist (possibly). now within just a few HUNDRED years we are where we are today with all this knowledge and it's expanding all the while. i heard it said as a child that scientific knowledge was doubling every decade. i don't know how right that is but just look at how fast it IS going!!!
Sounds like more than a few people out there with some unknown fear of thinking and dreaming. I thank the heavens above I was not born to live within their lives.
It's quite simple, really. The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is: (drum roll)...
42.
K.K ... i've seen that number posted alone before like you just did and have NO idea what it means! HELP!
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, peace6... it's a great book and a pretty decent movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/
thank you mob! i saw the trailer and put it into my queue on netflix! can't wait to see it.
The Earth was created as a giant computer to find the answer to the Universe. It was determined that the answer is 42, but nobody can remember what the original question was....
That is the basis of the whole 42 thing...I know, I use it fairly often myself...lol
That's right - the Answer is either "42", or "It's turtles all the way."
I think Brian is straight on with his theory of multiple universes. I am thinking it is a lot simpler than what he is putting forth.
Think about our solar system. In our view, it has a sun with planets, including Pluto (for Alan), and other entities circling it. So far we know all solar systems act the same way. They act like Atoms and like Galaxies.
Now go smaller and think Atomic Micro system. Within this solar system, the parts are made up of matter with atoms having electrons circling the center nucleus. All following the same laws.
Now think supermicro system: Those atoms have subatomic particles in them that may be circling some other particles following the same rules as the solar system. As of yet we don't know how that works, but I think these particles must follow the same principles as the atom itself does.
Now think in Macro terms of our Milkyway galaxy. We have a black hole being circled by our star system and others that are also comprised of matter comprised of atoms. All following the same patterns in physics.
It should follow that in terms of our own Universe, it too has a core around which all galaxies and matter revolves. Maybe not perfectly around at this time due to the big bang being somewhat directional, but eventually getting to that point over time as those directional forces start being overcome by natural laws.
The same should be true of the our Universe itself. Being nothing more than one of many Universes made up of all the combined atoms revolving around some other central point.
If one small subatomic particle we can see and one Universe we can't see totally follow the same laws, then Brian's Macro Multiuniverses must be part of still another larger form following the same laws and so forth ad infinitum.
Each time a we see a star explode, we may be seeing nothing more than a minature (by comparison) to our own big bang. By fulling understanding a SuperNova, we may be able to understand the Multi Universe system.
DelFairchild , re: #35
You overlook the differences between quantum and Newtonian physics. Subatomic particles do not orbit the nucleus the way planets orbit the sun - they vanish from their current location and reappear somewhere else in the statistical "orbit", without passing through the space in between. We do not observe planets behaving in this manner. (Well, the folks up top might, as they approach the bottom of that dime bag - we'll just have to humor them)
Similarly, we might expect universes in a multiverse to have laws of their own, equally if not more exotic from a Newtonian perspective.
I have a very big interest in multiverses simply because of others' experiences of Ghosts - what are they, where do they come from - is there at least one other dimension.
Someone once told me that the bible says "in God's house there are many Mansions". Di-mansions??
Also, what about people who can see into the future? Have not most of us read something about this stuff. How does this happen? Does it suggest a parallel Universe that somehow exists further advanced than ours? What about people who can see into the past? These things actually happen so there must be some explanation as to the possibility of different dimensions existing.
What about deja vue? That inexplicable feeling that many of us experience of "has this happened before" or "I just know this is going to happen?
This all might not be multiverses, but something is going on.
Hi Teresa:
I believe there is nothing new under the sun because all life is similar throughout the Universe or Multverse if you will. All Physics laws so far have to be followed no matter where we are and what we do. All math is the same everywhere.
Everything that we know, feel, suggest or think of has already been thought of and done somewhere in the past and/or in the future. If we believe in something, it will come to pass eventually because we know in our atomic structure we can do that and we are the same as the rest of the universe (after all we all came from the same big bang). If we are tied together in anyway, that is the string theory that binds us all throughout time. Our becoming from the same instant.
That is why every culture on Earth (since animals started to think) has some type of religion. Why every animal on Earth is capable of doing the same things such as a dog or Chimp learning to sign or talk or to kill on command. To be sure we developed differently, but given time and conditions, humans could change beyond or back to their more primitive status.
We are finding out things about the dinosaurs that we didn't know yesterday. They were but large chickens, warm blooded and egg layers. They even baby sat their young much as some birds do today.
To believe in ghosts or some other entity would be no different than believing in God or believing in Science as you see fit. There are many strange words printed in the Bible and as seen on the History channel throughout many cultures about ghosts and other phenomenon that the human mind can not comprehend. When I was about six, (57 years ago), my father read part of the Sankrits to me about flying into battle with airplanes.
Who is to say there wasn't another life time just like ours today millions of years ago on Earth that has already done the same things and felt the same as you or I, but has been totally destroyed? There would be no trace due to the rifts in the bottom of the oceans eating up all the evidence of past times from tectonic plate movements. The Earth and the Universe is being changed every microsecond of time.
Ghosts were written about all the time. There has to be some origin to it, to even suggest it. So I think yes, it is safe to believe that ghosts can live in these other dimensions. After all, there is a law that says matter and energy can not be created nor destroyed - only changed from or into another form.
Who is the say that the human spirit is not some form changed and put into another place? Or that even the spirit is not changed, but can travel between these places?
Teresa, there is no one on this site or anywhere else in the world that can tell you proof positive that it can't happen.
Good luck to you and yours.
Teresa, there is no reason to think that there are NOT other universes, even ones that co-exist with our own. If you imagine quantum energy levels, which can be seen even on the atomic scale, with electrons gaining or losing energy and hopping to another energy level 'ring' then it is totally possible that there are higher and lower energy state planes that co-exist with our own, and are, indeed a part of it, but we cannot detect them PRESENTLY with our level of tech. But just because we cannot see them does not mean that they are not still there.
And of course, as usual, countless people who don't know anything about science all leave comments that read as absolute idiocy to those who do.
Well, I have to get an answer from somewhere. Idiotic as it sounds to you - this stuff plays on my mind from time to time so when I saw this vine and all the brainy ones that are here - I thought Ask Them. Worth a try....
I like Teresa's questions and I dislike Kevin's snobby attitude.
First of all, if you can't count high enough to count the people commenting on this particular article then you're just not trying hard enough Kevin. It's hardly "countless". But, more importantly, MANY of these people are very bright individuals who love science and know a hell of a lot about science in general and some are actually specialists in certain branches of the sciences. You, KevinBos, post no credentials and no informative comment of any kind. Your only contribution to the discussion is to put down those that you feel "don't know anything" about science.
KevinBos, if you have something worthwhile to add to this conversation then, by all means, make a contribution.
The only stupid questions are the ones that you do not ask, or the ones that you already know the answers to, but refuse to believe the answer when the proof is placed in front of you.
I agree with Mob!
Mob and Honest - don't concern yourself with people like Kevin. They seemingly belong to a band of viners that, in their idle moments, trawl through subject matters they have no real interest in leaving their mark with clevel quips and denegrating comments; the analogy might be something like dogs urinating on a lamp-post.... Kevin seems to be a vine-pee-er.....
KB; No one new about science until the first question was asked and answered. Did that make them absolute idiots? No one knows absolute science or there would be no questions and answers. There for, there are no idiots unless one knows all and that leaves no questions to be asked. Are you that one that knows all, absolute? I hope not. That leaves nothing to gain for the rest of us. Sorry, but that is my theory. Every one is intitled to at least one.
Brian's answer to Alan's question:
I would think that so far, we have not found two identical fingerprints between humans and they even tried a Chimp's finger prints to match all the data bases without success.
Also so far (I don't know who may have ever tried this) they haven't found two identical snow flakes.
If I have this correct, and I don't know the name of this rule, but the ways all matter is formed, life or not, is proven mathatically. A flower is made similar to another plant. Or as in water, animals develop appendages that eventually formed the arms and legs of animals as they developed on land. This would probably hold true for life on other planets as well that lived in water and then went to land. After all math is math through out the Universe.
However to get a nice 10 point White Tail deer on Jupiter would probably not happen because it doesn't have the exact same scheme of things as does where this nice 10 point buck was derived from here on Earth. We may see some type of animal that would look similar to the buck if we were to go to some planet elsewhere in the universe, but only because that animal had antlers adapted to fighting for a mate and these animals live in a certain type of forested area with Maple like branches or in the case of Mule deer with sage brush. They adapted the antlers to fight, but their shape was evolved for camouflage. Even all the deer that were killed in the world probably haven't had any that were exactly alike. Similar but not exact.
To prove the finite statement pasted above, you should capture and then look for that other snow flake. Just don't let it fall on your tongue!!
Indeed, free energy is real...and it comes from Dilithium Crystals. Doesn't everyone know that?
What would be the aleph number of the set of multiverses? What aleph number would be required for an infinite series of Alan Boyles, differing by each of their interactions with all the other humans in those 'verses'?
I am very, very skeptical. We should persue the theories, but we should catagorize them under advanced mathmatics or probability statistics, not theoretical physics. 1/127 is all ways the same recurring number everywhere we can see, and where we can't it don't matter. Let's not scrap GR theory but lets remember to teach the young-uns that it is ONLY a theory. Oppenhiemer did NOT need it to make his special project work, the other side was right behind him with out it. The speed of c is not a speed limit, only the speed of c...our eyes work with photons, not gravitons...in that sense we are all in flatland....at some point we will see things like how the venus mapper, after losing power to it's radar, still managed to map parts of venus by the pull of gravity..as an experiment that showed that the speed of gravity was greater than c. In the meantime, we will look for gravity waves at the speed of c or lower, where they do not exist, the indirect reaction of normal matter to these waves can be detected...easily, you will see it in any ocean on this planet...can't speak for other planets (titans likes are unusually flat!) or in multiverses. After the milikan experiment I learned to look beyond the parameters of the given experiment, that is where the real science is my friends, so the study of multiverse's may well lead to an understanding of phenomenae in this universe....
ray smith makes a good point about the speed of light not being a speed limit. Gravity is something we do not fully understand as yet (do we "understand" anything completely?) but which we continually study. As a conjecture, visualize two objects, one at the west end of the universe, the other at the east end. Does gravity reach out from both toward the other? Or does gravity exist between the two of them simultaneous with their existence? If there is only one plane of existence, it would seem that gravity should be more intense between them when they are closer together than when they are further apart. But if gravity connects the two of them intrinsically, does their existence indicate some kind of warp in three-dimensional space? That would indicate layer upon layer of different realities.
Keep going :D
"Infinity" is a concept that the human mind finds difficult to comprehend. But if it works in one direction, i.e. expanding, it is logical to envision it working in the opposite direction, i.e., contracting. Further, can we then stop the process at the level of existence which is represented as "strings" being the fundamental building blocks of reality? As a corollary, from what source would those "strings" derive the energy to "vibrate" in a continuous mode?
We acknowledge a universe guided by Newtonian Laws, controlling molecular and atomic objects, but another co-existent universe of sub-atomic particles guided by a different set of laws, Einsteinian in description if not in actuality. If we can see the boundaries of these universes, and even interact with them, could there not be more universes fully-formed beyond our observation?
I think I liked this book better when it was written by Kaku fifteen plus years ago. ;O)
"The analogy I like to use is a deck of cards. When you shuffle the deck, the cards come out in different orders, but there are only finitely many different orders of the cards. If you shuffle that deck infinitely many times, the orders necessarily will repeat. Similarly, in an infinite spatial universe, the arrangements of particles have to repeat, too. If they repeat, then indeed, things that we are familiar within the world around us — you, me, Earth, the sun, everything else — would repeat as well."
Yes, the orders repeat, but with one deck of cards the orders never exist at the same time! They are never parallel orders.
Who has ever said that there is only one deck...and how would you prove it??
What about the concept of 'distance' instead of parallel universes? In an infinite universe, with infinite galaxies, planets, arrangement of atoms, etc. we could have all possible variations? Therefore, if you 'go' far enough you would meet different variations of yourself and of histories. Hmmmmm- mindboggling.
MX Missile
I could not have said it better my self. Thanks
Parallel universes where other versions of us exist? Believing this is a symptom of mankind's schizophrenic mix of arrogance and low self esteem. It just has to be about us doesn't it? Maybe we are not at the center of the universe or multiverse or whatever it is. Also, I think this place (cosmos?) is much more huge and complex than we already know, not that it needs to get any bigger to be incomprehensible to our tiny human brains. It is just as likely that the galaxies are complex molecules in something much larger than we can recognize.
I think it is mute to argue that the theory is not something to look into. they argue it is a waist of time to look into and advance our technology and understanding of the universe. Actually if we do pursue this theory and find a parallel universe of us that is more technologically advanced then us we could learn from them and excel our tech by say 6 centuries or more. we could learn more from other universes than being stubborn and focusing on this one 24/7. the math says there is something we don't see. that is enough evidence for me to believe it is worth something.
Math the language of sceince, Imaginary number theory in action, square root of a -1 all gives you imaGINARY RESULTS why is this so hard for real scientist to understand it is always better to live in a universe of the imagination than to have to work at solving real tangeably science problems, reminds me of working on treatments rather than cures because there is no money in cures. Yes conveluted thinking but what the heck no one really cares!
Beware all...I am from Guilder!