How to build a better Irish beer

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A customer drinks a pint of Guinness, in the Gravity bar at the Guinness storehouse, Dublin, in this file photo.

On St. Patrick's Day, many a pensive imbiber will shake their empty can of Guinness stout and hear the rattle of the widget that gave their beer a foamy head. That idle pleasure could come to an end. Now, a patch of cellulose fibers is all that's needed to get the magical foam, according to new research.

The makers of Guinness started adding the widget to cans of Guinness Draught in the 1980s. The plastic device sits in the top of the can and when the can is opened, the widget spews nitrogen and beer. This helps give the canned stout the same foamy head and creamy mouth feel as a pint poured in a pub.


Researchers at the University of Limerick previously showed that when champagne and other carbonated drinks are poured in a glass, bubbles form as the liquid hits fibers of cellulose — essentially dirt — on the surface of the glass.

"The cellulose fibers will either have been shed from the cloth used to wipe the glass dry or will have fallen out of the air," William Lee, a lecturer in mathematics and statistics, who led the research, writes in a Q&A about the findings.

Applied to stout
The team, however, thought this mechanism didn't apply to stout because when a canned stout without a widget is poured in a glass, bubbles didn't form. This was thought to be due to the fact that nitrogen is added to stouts to reduce the acidity brought on by carbon dioxide.  

But to double check, they put an intern on the case who found that bubbles do form, albeit much more slowly. To see the bubbles, watch the video below.

Bubbles form in stout beer.

The team notes that stouts have a mix of carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Nitrogen gives the small bubbles that make the nice creamy head, but the bubbles grow much more slowly. To make the bubble formation in stouts faster, but without the use of a widget, the researchers propose lining the top of cans with a 2.9 centimeter square of fibrous material positioned so that the stout flows past it as it is poured out of the can, according to Lee.

In a pub, Guinness is dispensed at high pressures through a plate with tiny holes in it, Lee explains. The resulting turbulence creates the tiny bubbles that are created by a widget in a can. The widget, Guinness says, gives canned beer the taste and texture of a pub-poured pint at home.

"Maybe this new idea will give them a replacement for the widget," Mark Denny, author of "Froth: The Science of Beer," told me today. "Time marches on and this may or may not be a less expensive alternative."

Is Guinness best in Ireland?
All this thinking about the science of beer and Guinness in particular leads to another, perhaps more subjective, question that has occupied drinkers of the creamy stout for decades: is a pub-poured pint of Guinness the same all around the world?

Yes, according to the brand's Website. "We always use pure, fresh water from natural local sources for the Guinness stout brewed outside Ireland. That said, in blind tests (with a bunch of highly cynical journalists) none of our sample could tell the difference between Irish-brewed Guinness and the locally produced variety."

That sample must not have included Daniel Kotz, Liam Glynn, Christian Mallen, or Jochen Cals, a group of researchers from different countries who traveled around the world to collect data on the enjoyment of Guinness. They found it is indeed best in Ireland.

As they traveled and sampled Guinness at various pubs, they rated their enjoyment on a "Visual Analog Scale" from 0 (enjoyed it not at all) to 100 (enjoyed it very much). A total of 103 tastings were recorded (42 in Ireland, 61 elsewhere) in 71 pubs spread over 33 cities and 14 countries. The enjoyment of Guinness in Ireland scored higher, 74 on the scale, than outside the country, 57 on the scale.

"This difference remained statistically significant after adjusting for researcher, pub ambience, Guinness appearance, and the sensory measures mouth feel, flavor, and aftertaste," the teams writes in the March 1 issue of the Journal of Food Science.

"This study is the first to provide scientific evidence that Guinness does not travel well and that the enjoyment of Guinness (for our group of nonexpert tasters) was higher when in Ireland. Results, however, are subject to further verification because of limitations in the study design," they add.

Denny, who has a PhD in theoretical physics from Edinburgh University and is a fan of Guinness, agrees that "Guinness in Ireland tastes better than Guinness anywhere else … but I wouldn't say it is due to the fact that it doesn't travel well necessarily because, for example, Guinness brews its beer in other parts of the world."

Rather, he suspects the beer is tweaked to suit local tastes. The Guinness poured in Ireland is "thicker, got more body to it, (and) that beautiful head on top is so thick it is almost like meringue," he said.

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They have those little plastic widgets in bottles of regular Guinness also, but not bottles of extra stout(yes I have may have had one or two..... dozen bottles of both in my life. Far far better than any bottle of Bud, Miller, or Coors).

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Reply#1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:40 PM EDT

I heard years ago that local Guinness also tasted differently from the export version. Haven't had a chance to test out the theory yet.

    Reply#2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

    A friend recently traveled to Ireland and had a Guinness at the ghost bar, ironically this Bud Light connoisseur said it was one of the best beers he has ever had. He hates Guinness in the States though. Any Irish folks want to hire an American? Will work for Guinness.

      Reply#3 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:03 PM EDT

      Here here folks. I have family I have never met in Ireland, that I wouldn't mind getting in touch with. Seems to me like a good enough excuse to test the taste theory for Guinness

        Reply#4 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:16 PM EDT

        May you be in heaven a full half-hour before the devil knows your dead.

        Slainte!

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        Reply#5 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:39 PM EDT

        Having enjoyed fresh Guinness stout in the Dublin brewery's Gravity Bar I can unequivocally say it tastes better there than anywhere else.  It's like drinking cream.

          Reply#6 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:51 PM EDT

          The local water (unless they are double distilling it - which I doubt) has incredible effect on the taste of a beer, so it stands to reason that Guinness or any other beer will be different depending on locale. Pale ale originated in Burton on Trent because of the local water. Quote from Wikipedia "Burton retained absolute dominance in pale ale brewing: at its height one quarter of all beer sold in Britain was produced there [14] until a chemist, C. W. Vincent discovered the process of Burtonisation to reproduce the chemical composition of the water from Burton-upon-Trent, thus giving any brewery the capability to brew pale ale."

          I have drunk Guinness at the St James Gate brewery, in a lot of pubs in Dublin and around Ireland, ditto for Scotland, England and Wales, Kenya, the Philippines, and several states in the USA. I have drunk bottled and canned Guinness (both with and without widgets). Nothing can compare to a pint freshly drawn in the brewery. The pint in Mulligans of Poolbeg St in Dublin comes a close second. Most of the worst have been in the US, where the bar tenders are not taught that pulling a pint of Guinness takes time.

            Reply#7 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:00 PM EDT

            I believe it, look at the preferred kinds of beer here in the US: Bud Lite, Budwiser, Miller Lite, Coors Lite, and Corona Extra. All light and/or lite beers. If you look at the top ten by market share then you have Bud Lite, Budwiser Miller Lite Coors Lite Natural Lite Corona Extra, Busch, Busch Lite, Heiniken and Miller High Life. Not a single stout on that list. I have given some Guinness to some of my buddies that like Bud Lite, and they act like they just got hit in the lungs with it.

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            #7.1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT

            Eric, while a large portion of the population in America does drink the likes of Bud, Miller, etc, you would be mistaken to think that America doesn't produce some if the best beers in the entire world. The craft brew explosion in the States has led us into the heyday of beer in America. Check out Beer Advocates listing of the worlds best beers to see what I mean. I would put Russian Rivers Pliny the Younger up against a Guinness any day of the week, Granted they are very different beers, but Pliny is so much richer in flavor.

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            #7.2 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:00 AM EDT

            I think the lesson is to drink the locally brewed beer, if it is brewed locally. That way you get the full richness of where you are at.

            Just because one beer isn't the same as another doesn't mean it isn't good, or that it doesn't have it's own character.

            Drink and enjoy, variety is the spice of life.

              #7.3 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:34 PM EDT

              StMillar, I am not saying that the US doesn't make good beers. My comment was more an agreement that bartenders in the US do not know how to pull a draw of Gunness because of the fact that it is a very different kind of beer versus what is traditionally served, which is why I put up those two lists. Me personnally, I am also a very big fan of Samual Adams beers myself, I like their Irish red, as well as some of their seasonal ales, and I have no doubt that there are small, or micro brewers that make their own beer that is very good as well, unfortunately the area I live in has a severe deficit of small time brewers, there are about 3 in all that can distribute in my state, which is very unfortunate.

                #7.4 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:52 PM EDT

                Eric-2189088 - That sounds like a golden opportunity for you to start a good craft brew in your area. What better job! Sam Adams does make some good beers and always gets a bit of nod for being early into the craft beer market along with Anchor Steam.

                  #7.5 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
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                  Ahh, my darling, my Guinness!! This article has made me thirsty for one (or more), but I must wait until the workday is done. Ack, what am I saying, I work at home - I can have one now!

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                  Reply#8 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:28 PM EDT

                  Llucky bas****!!! lol

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                  #8.1 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 PM EDT
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                  I've tried a Guinness in just about every part of the world I've been to that offered it. From drinking one on the streets of Malta at 8 in the morning to the Dublin 6 in New York in the evening, the Irish Village in Dubai to Sargento Pimienta in Peru, Spain, Turkey,(you get the idea) and so many many more. Though I have yet to try one in Ireland I can say most assuredly that its the 'delivery' makes or breaks the deliciously dry stout. I would say 'at least outside of Ireland' but that would be irrelevant since I'm sure they pour it perfectly over there adding only to its perfect taste. I've been to several bars around the world and all it takes is a different bartender to make you say "My Goodness! My Guinness!" or "My Goodness! My Guinness!!". The later, of course, whilst crying.

                    Reply#9 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:54 AM EDT

                    Sounds like a good excuse for a road trip to Ireland to test the theory!

                      Reply#10 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

                      I've over-imbibed Guinness all over the world and, after the first ten, can truly say that there isn't lick of difference. Warm,cool, or cold, it is truly mothers' milk. Well, all this typing makes a man thirsty. Good drinking!

                        Reply#11 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:54 PM EDT

                        I still cant bring myself to drink any english/irish/scottish beers from a can. Just doesnt seem civilized.

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