Strange twists in a DNA message

JCVI

This strain of Mycoplasma bacteria contains a genetically encoded quotation from physicist Richard Feynman ... which is wrong.

The pioneer who produced the first organism programmed with synthetic DNA admits that the creature's genetically coded message really needs to be corrected.

Last year, geneticist J. Craig Venter and his colleagues announced that they basically hijacked the genetic machinery of a strain of bacteria known as Mycoplasma capricolum, by implanting the synthetically produced DNA patterned after a different strain, M. mycoides. The researchers added a few coded "watermarks" to the DNA, to prove that the resulting organism really did reflect the synthetic genome.

The watermarks consist of triplets of DNA pairs, with each triplet representing a character of text. For example, a string of guanine, thymine and cytosine, or GTC, stands for the letter "T." The DNA string was built up to spell the names of Venter and his collaborators, as well as a snippet of HTML Web coding and three well-known quotations.

  • "To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, to recreate life out of life." — James Joyce (in "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man")
  • "See things not as they are, but as they might be." — Manhattan Project physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer (as quoted in "American Prometheus")
  • "What I cannot build, I cannot understand," — Quantum physicist Richard Feynman

The only problem is, that Feynman quote is wrong. The classic Feynman quote, as written on a blackboard at Caltech just before he died, goes like this: "What I cannot create, I do not understand."

Plenty of Feynman fans pointed out the misquote soon after the Mycoplasma research was announced last May, but the error seemed destined to go down as one of history's enduring quotroversies, alongside Neil Armstrong's long-debated "One Small Step" declaration from the lunar surface. Until now.

As David Ewalt reported on Forbes' Metagamer blog, Venter fessed up to the error during this month's South by Southwest conference in Austin, Texas. The geneticist said that Caltech sent him a note about the misquote, and even included a picture of the blackboard displaying the correct version.

"We agreed what was on the Internet was wrong," Ewalt quoted Venter as saying. "So we're going back to change the genetic code to correct it."

Does that mean the Venter team's synthetic bacterium will be re-engineered? Heather Kowalski, a spokeswoman for the J. Craig Venter Institute (and Venter's wife), couldn't immediately confirm that part of the story. But she did clarify another angle, having to do with that James Joyce quote.

Joyce's estate is notoriously vigilant in its efforts to guard against unauthorized use of the Irish author's prose — and in his report from SXSW, Ewalt quoted Venter as saying that the research team received a "cease and desist" letter from the estate, complaining that the "Life Out of Life" sentence had been used without permission.

In her email, Kowalski told me that the reports about the letter had "gotten a little out of whack," and that there was no legal action in the works.

"The Joyce Estate legal team sent a letter expressing 'disappointment' that JCVI/Craig did not seek permissions from the Estate to use the quote that was encoded into the first synthetic cell," she wrote. "Our lawyers believed and continue to believe that there was indeed fair use of the quote, and there has not been any further correspondence on either part since that initial letter from the Estate."

If Venter really does tweak the synthetic DNA to fix the Feynman quote, I'd love to see him add yet another quotation to reflect on these latest twists. Here's my suggestion, from "Ulysses," James Joyce's masterwork: "A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery."

What quote would you enshrine in a bacterium? Feel free to add your favorites in the comment space below.

Update for 3 a.m. ET March 29: Here's what Kowalski had to say about the Feynman quote in a follow-up email: "Craig says it will be corrected in the synthetic cell."

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My quote would be "The bible is not a science book" by me.

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#1 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:17 PM EDT

I'm not sure if that was a cheap shot at the Bible but:

The Bible is not a book of science but it is not unscientific. If fact, it's science is accurate. The thing about it is, the science in the Bible was written by the hands of men that did not comprehend what they were writing, and they wrote about things they had no way of knowing. They did not take credit for what they wrote either, but said it was given to them by God.

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#1.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:11 AM EDT

Additionally, the Bible is accurate in several aread of science including:

Astronomy, Meteorology, Biology, Anthropology, Hydrology, Geology, Physics

The thing is, manking had no idea how accurate the Bible was about these subjects because we had no clue about these things for centuries and even millenia. There are still some aread related to science in the Bible we do not undersstand. Perhaps eventually we will.

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#1.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:17 AM EDT

Not only the bible every religion is a science. The bible on the other hand is more towards the sex side. If you see, the structures made to pray. If you have a proper eye and fly high, you will see it depicts the egg basket wherein one egg releases every day, so you should only consume one egg in a day. You got it.

To find more of such scientific fact the country were such research should be done is India. For example, there was this practice of burning the wife with her husband in the cemetery that is after her husband dies. In order to know the concept of this practice you’ve got to fly very very high. When you are, high enough you’ll see that our solar system works the same way. However, we’ve got to synchronize the Sun with a Man and the Earth with a Women. When our sun dies it will eat up the Earth as it will expand. The recent findings of the Mayan civilization say the same tale. The people used to burn their house before rebuilding it on the same place. Even today, they are embedding science in religion, some time back I came across this picture of Jesus wherein they show him with a heart with three lights emitting from it. Now what are these three lights? Alpha, Gamma, and Beta. This picture originated from a south Indian state whose people are in the science field, especially nuclear science. I can go on writing but I feel the message has been passed. The scientists are doing this to find the secrets of nuclear fusion.

    #1.3 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:15 AM EDT

    Perhaps Gossman8310 hasn't read the Bible (well enough) to consider how unscientific an arc of Noah's proportions was, or the problems with the "four corners of the earth" as if the world was flat, walking on water, human virgins conceiving, water being transmuted into wine, flasks of oil never failing, or humans being raised from the dead. These are all claims about our world that we wouldn't in a million years expect to be reproducible under reasonable conditions today, and thus fail scientifically.

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    #1.4 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:33 AM EDT

    Dont forget about the book of Genesis, the blantant errors of common scientific knowedge there are staggering.

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    #1.5 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

    @third_ey3

    In case you weren't aware, the Bible and other religious writings are mostly symbolic tales that depict changes(which could be, for example "having faith" in the walking on water tale) in accordance to the values being expressed in the story. Maybe you haven't read the bible(well enough) to realize that. After all many die believing that these stories are truly literal, maybe some are, but many are just meant to symbolize so something.

      #1.6 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:36 AM EDT

      third_ey3, keep in mind that a lot of these beliefs were touted by many ancient cultures as "scientific" fact, not just those of the ancient Jews and Christians. Just because they were eventually proven to be incorrect does not mean they do not hold any water in terms of the history of scientific thought. For the resources the people had at the time, some of these ideas don't seem too far a stretch.

        #1.7 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

        People may find science in the bible and think that it was unknowingly written but there is a gap between when the bible was written and when science came into exsistence. Before and after Jesus' death (about 300 yrs after) was when the bible was written. It wasn't until Gallieo and others when science was discovered, many years after the bible. Its two different worlds. You can believe in the miracles or not it doesn't matter. Not one person can prove or disprove them, just because you or science cannot recreate them, Miracles happen every day, just because you're not there to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Or in other words "If the Pope poops in the woods..."

          #1.8 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:45 PM EDT

          I cannot believe how stupid the comments arguing that the bible is a science book, are considering that the people writing them obviously know how to use a computer. They must be intentionally stupid just to make fun of christians.

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          #1.9 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

          I'm thinking that if one were to have the knowledge that those who wrote the Bible had in their day, they were at least as smart as we are today. There is nothing new under the sun; only revised thoughts to reflect some new knowledge, comprehension or dream.

          There were libraries 2,500 years ago that had the written works of scholars from all over the world of which we could only dream of today. Too bad the owners of these libraries didn't have overhead sprinkler systems in place to save these books and manuscripts when most were burnt during invasions. What we could learn from those missing texts would most likely astound human kind today.

          When thinking what we have achieved in the last 6,000 years of recorded history, makes one wonder what could have happened in the past four and a half (4.5) Billion years the Solar system has been in play and the last few million years that human kind has been roaming the surface.

          The whole universe being the same, following the same rules and laws, and we being one part that was created within this Fourteen (14) Billion year old Universe could very well mean that we already know everything there is to know. We just have to rediscover it over and over again when something happens to make us forget.

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          #1.10 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:23 PM EDT

          wickeddog: Maybe I don't understand what you are saying, but:

          Type in "History of Computing" in BING. There were computers in 2,400 B.C. which counted and kept track of property. In 150 - 100 B.C. there was a Greek analog computer that tallied up numbers. What we call computers today only count zeros and ones to produce our "computers". Computers means Computations or counting, adding, subtracting, etc. Nothing new, just a little different.

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          #1.11 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:39 PM EDT

          DelFairchild:

          Don't forget shifting, caching, MMU address translation, paging, IO management.......and well these are operations not soley based on pure arithmetic. Computers automated through states and processing at speeds of measures by units of clocks. A wooden calculator does use an electrical current to process. Just trying to get people to stop saying that chips today simply do math, they do not, they're tiny cities of fluxing currents. To degrade the technological advancement in chip design is disreputable, we could have never developed these infinitisemally fast Turing machines with advancements in wood. So please, don't degrade computers, if anything you should place them culpable for something, rather than relinquishing their real merits.

          And about your views of were we are in terms of progress as a human race, no one has a say. I'm reading this, and this is what an individual believes is his best thinking. Please understand no one has clear permission from any evidence known as of now to say that we've achieved maximum intelligence. I don't know the reason why when people place points on theories they've heard, they dispute with clear ratification as if they were laws. You're assuming the age of the universe, estimated from what we can deduce from astrological evidence we've gathered from this single place, and from this age you say that its length clearly justifies we'll know as much as we already do. This is not true, and cannot be disputed amongst ourselves, for we are a creation of the universe and only with the creator of the universe can you make claims validly. As this is impossible, any say is speculation and makes you a number in the statistic that defines people who "think they have the answer, and want you to keep on living with their words in you".

          As for the genetic code error, "Hello World" would have been great lol

            #1.12 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:40 PM EDT

            At one time, I am sure flying was held as a trait of sorcerers and witches. Of course, the next time an emergency room doctor revives a patient, I'll be sure to tell him he or she can't do that. And though it was in solid form at the time, I have walked on water.

            Of course Noah's ARK (not arc) was huge, but so are our modern oil tankers. Changing water into wine? Merely manipulation of atoms and their components. Gene Roddenberry even considered it possible. Now it isn't science, just science fiction, but then again, only time will tell when science fiction becomes science fact. If that weren't true, our moon mission wouldn't have happened.

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            #1.13 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:05 PM EDT

            @DBJMPT

            I’m much more willing to accept that the Bible is full of metaphors and not simply myth regarded as fact by goat-herding Metal-Age Palestinians playing a version of telephone across generations. However your mileage varies, your argument is entirely subjective as many do in fact claim the Bible to be literal. As a Mormon in my earlier years, and as an example, the Tower of Babel story must be taken as literal fact for the Mormon Book of Ether to hold merit. As it turns out our scientific understanding, which includes the evaluation of observable evidence, simply doesn’t support the argument.

            What I also hope to persuade you of is that, say, 150 years ago many more Christians regarded the Bible literally. I assert this without measure so if I’m wrong, please correct me. But in other words, people have defected away from literalism into symbolism. This is what we would expect to happen as we hold ourselves honest to scientific inquiry; as we see the claims do not fit the world we see, metaphor is the only valid way the Bible can still be true, albeit “incorrect.”

            @justdontgetit

            The Bible is touted to be the word of God. In your post you claim it to be the writings of men about God, whereas I thought the Holy Bible was the writings of God through men. If it was written by people truly inspired, we should expect valid claims about the world. Please correct me if I’m being irrational. If you claim the Bible to simply track humanity’s history of scientific thought, you’ve long since thrown the divinity out of the entire equation. Don’t you think a divine creator wouldn’t have made so many “simple” mistakes so far as nature and science are concerned?

            @Shawn Pete

            An ark (thank you for the correction) would leak like Japan’s nuclear reactors (too soon?) at the joints without metal supports that had yet to be discovered. In other words, it’s not just the size that makes it implausible but the architecture. The design is flawed without different materials. If you claim that Jesus had control over electrons in an atom, I’ll give you that just maybe he could turn water into wine. It’s just easier to believe that it’s a story and myth.

            You’re correct, our refining discoveries and observations about the world are adding knowledge faster than ever. And as this has boomed over the last century, or even the last two generations, we’re (collectively) moving further and further from taking the Bible seriously. Either we’re turning into sinners who’ve abandoned the word of God or we’re just more grown up and less superstitious.

              #1.14 - Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:17 AM EDT

              Looking to the comments I agree it is hard to digest the truth. However, here are few more cultural practices, which date back to more than 6,500 years. These practices would astonish you at micro and macro level. The question arises, how did the people know it?

              There is this community in India who worships the moon during a particular month. The married women’s from a community fast for the full day, waiting for the night and the rise of the moon. As the moon rises,
              the women’s take a netted round plate and see the reflection of the moon through the water. While doing this the husband has to be before her, for she needs to see the face of her husband first. Then break the fast by eating.

              The aim of this practice is that the woman wants the child to look like her husband. To know more you’ve got to swim. As the tadpole enters the egg, the egg releases an electric current killing others around. The woman is in the egg and choses only her husband lookalike from the millions who come
              for she is starving for him.

              There are many lines, which has arrived through this area 51. Such as, “the survival of the strongest” “keeping your word”. The line keeping your word is the strongest of all. In the olden days, the man used to fulfill the promise they used to give or keep their word. However, in today’s deceptive times one needs to be careful in following the practice. The tadpole is the word, which goes in the egg or says the moon. If the investment is a success, you will get a return. If you don’t get a return it means you’ve not kept the word. You’ll find people from the cities don’t keep their word.

              After micro level analysis above now lets make a macro level analysis.

              There is this please in the sands where people bow before a box, the analysis of the box is still on. In this place, a large black stone kept and the people go around it by taking a stone in their hand, put all their
              troubles in the stone in hand and throw it towards the large stone. Now to know the logic we’ve got to fly high, very high. The practice resembles the black hole. When our sun dies, it will eat up everything so it’s considered bad. Hence, the people are told to do this act and turn the black hole into the sun.
              As the Sun never takes but just gives. Therefore, you see many lines have evolved through this evolution act.

              There are many such practices in which scientific information has been embedded, which can’t be understood by 99.9999% of people. The above clues will help one to read behind lines and see behind the pictures. I can list more but this is enough for now.

              When I was small, I used to go to the valleys, play with the tadpoles, the real ones, and bring some home to. Here is a small poetry.

              “I’m a tadpole walking on the moon road. Dashing here, dashing there, the place is crowded in this narrow lane, there are no friends over here, so no help one gets. There is no place to rest no place to weep. I’ve
              got to reach the moon, with enough energy in. for that’s my paradise that’s my home.”

                #1.15 - Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:27 AM EDT

                Shawn Pete:

                Yes, flying was once regarded as magic. We still can't fly. We can ride in things that fly, but that's not the same.

                As for walking on water you have obviously never read the story. It talks of waves lapping and the churning of the sea under them. It is painfully obvious the water was not frozen or even calm.

                The argument against Noah's Ark isn't the size, it's the practicality. There are more insects on this planet than could fit into an ark the size described in the Bible. That doesn't even count the several different species of lion, tiger, bear, deer, elk, moose, squirrel, dog, cat, mouse, buffalo, kangaroo, marmoset, meerkat, pig, chicken, and various other animal that exist. Remember, they could not have evolved from a core group because there is no such thing as evolution. So they all came from the Ark. Not looking nearly as big as it once did.

                Changing water into wine is more than simply changing an atomic structure (as if that was easy enough). Water is a simple substance. It's pure. Wine is a mixture of several hundred chemicals that make up the various taste profiles, shades, odors, and "mouth feelings" that are wine. It is not a pure substance so changing water to wine would include changing some of the water into tanic acid but other molecules into alcohol, and yet others into aromatic substances of differing amino acid chains. Aside from the fact that the basic "change one substance into another" is physically impossible changing one substance into several hundred other substances that are balanced and nuanced is a ridiculous claim. Regardless of what T.V. personality believes in it.

                True, there is no replacement in science for the wonder that drives us forward. But that doesn't include making up facts out of whole cloth.

                  #1.16 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:28 PM EDT
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                  People work for money, if you want loyalty, buy a dog.

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                  Reply#2 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:31 PM EDT

                  Better yet, dont buy a dog from a pet store Adopt :)

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                  #2.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:15 AM EDT

                  Adopt. and as Bob Barker would say "spay or neuter". There are too many "pets" without a loving home. Control the pet population. Please, adopt.

                    #2.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:11 PM EDT
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                    "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then" - Bob Seager

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                    Reply#3 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:16 PM EDT

                    My quote would be: "Take me to your leader"

                      Reply#4 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:37 PM EDT

                      Not bad... How about, "Return to Sender"

                        #4.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:14 PM EDT

                        or "Postage Required"

                          #4.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

                          "Oh, for heaven's sake, mankind, it's only four light years away, you know. I'm sorry, but if you can't be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that's your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams." - Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

                          Or alternatively "There's no point in acting suprised about it." - Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

                            #4.3 - Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

                            "Warning, do not tamper or modify".

                              #4.4 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:32 AM EDT
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                              Tomorrow, a previously undiscovered virus will wipe out mankind. All that will be left will be the bacteria. Some bacteria, over millennium, will mutate and eventually arise to rule the land again. Eons later, these new rulers of the planet will finally reach a level of sophistication that they will begin to research and understand their beginnings. They will discover the basis of their being, and will decode their genetic code. It is then that they will discover these quotes, in their own primordial DNA, and will create religions devoted to the worship of James Joyce, Robert Oppenheimer, and Richard Feynman.

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                              Reply#5 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:04 PM EDT

                              THERE IS NO SPOON.

                              IT IS NOT THE SPOON THAT BENDS…IT IS ONLY YOURSELF THAT BENDS

                              The Avatar kid in the Matrix

                                #5.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:04 AM EDT

                                haha reminds me of a Simpsons episode, and a South Park episode that copied the Simpsons episode...pretty sure there was also a Family Guy episode that copied both of them...

                                  #5.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:54 AM EDT
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                                  E=mc2

                                    Reply#6 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:05 PM EDT

                                    If you can read this you are close to spoil the magic.

                                      Reply#7 - Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:37 PM EDT

                                      WHAT??? This article is so confusing........ Blondie

                                        Reply#8 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:22 AM EDT

                                        I don't remember who said it but I like this one:

                                        "After a few billion years the impossible becomes commonplace"

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                                        Reply#9 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

                                        they have created that which they may never understand....don't worry, the org will never get loose, get swallowed by a gold fish that gets flushed down a drain that chomped by an alligator that gets pecked at by a pelican that gets stuck in a rocket cowling that gets abandoned on the lunar surface that gets knocked into the ort cloud by a metorite that gets assimulated by an alien vessel that melts it into the methane drinking supply that notes a foriegn dna anagram has gone virul and devastated an entire race which never gets around to leaving the blast area of that supernova which blasts the now mutated dna space faring viruluent civilization destroying little genome on a collision path with....EARTH...naw, that'll never happen, but the movie is now probably gonna be in theaters by the end of summer!!

                                          Reply#10 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:19 AM EDT

                                          stupid is...stupid does

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                                          Reply#11 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:25 AM EDT

                                          Life is so unlike theory. ~Anthony Trollope

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                                          Reply#12 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:04 AM EDT

                                          "Feed a fever - starve a cold."

                                            Reply#13 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:06 AM EDT

                                            THIS one is the winner. Awesome Wrecked inWA

                                              #13.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:13 PM EDT

                                              "All those who wander are not lost" ~ a bumper sticker I once read.

                                                #13.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:07 PM EDT

                                                Thats a JRR Tolkein Quote

                                                  #13.3 - Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:33 AM EDT
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                                                  "Live long and prosper ." ~ Spock

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                                                  Reply#14 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:20 AM EDT

                                                  "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here... This is the War Room!"

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                                                  #14.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
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                                                  "I can' t believe I ate the whole thing." ~ Alka-Seltzer's contribution to humanity

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                                                  Reply#15 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:25 AM EDT

                                                  "You should have seen the other guy."

                                                    Reply#16 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:33 AM EDT

                                                    One of Einstein's famous quotes:

                                                    "God does not play dice with the universe"

                                                      Reply#17 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:49 AM EDT

                                                      "Albert, stop telling God what to do with his dice." ~ Niels Bohr, to Einstein

                                                        #17.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:02 AM EDT

                                                        I haven't tried to buffer myself. I like rolling the dice. - Kevin Costner

                                                          #17.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:17 PM EDT
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                                                          "Alllllllllrighty then." - Ace Ventura

                                                            Reply#18 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:31 AM EDT

                                                            That's what she said

                                                              Reply#19 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:55 AM EDT

                                                              "Have it your way."

                                                                Reply#20 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:49 AM EDT

                                                                "The wisdom of the decision is always judged by the result" - Bill Parcells

                                                                  Reply#21 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:25 AM EDT

                                                                  .

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                                                                  #21.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:00 AM EDT

                                                                  Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end; then stop. ~Lewis Carrol, Alice in Wonderland

                                                                    #21.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:19 PM EDT

                                                                    "The difference between madness and genius is defined by success"

                                                                      #21.3 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

                                                                      Yeah, and to think, people thought Tesla was a mad genius.

                                                                        #21.4 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

                                                                        Imagine what he could have accomplished if his funding wouldn't have been pulled. Come to think of it, what happened with Tesla is a pretty good analogy for science in general today. As Einstein once said, and I am probably slaughtering the quote here "Once I acknowledge my limits, I can push past them"

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                                                                        #21.5 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT
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                                                                        Oh this world needs a saviour -- Beam us up !!! so that we may serve You Lord Jesus !!

                                                                          Reply#22 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:57 AM EDT

                                                                          Are you suggesting that Jesus was on the Enterprise?

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                                                                          #22.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

                                                                          Security officer Jesus Gonzales. He was killed in that one episode, remember? He was wearing a red shirt.

                                                                            #22.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:09 PM EDT
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                                                                            "To kill an error is as good a service as, and sometimes even better than, the establishing of a new truth or fact. "
                                                                            Charles Darwin

                                                                              Reply#23 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:57 AM EDT

                                                                              Keep It Simple Stupid. KISS K.I.S.S.!!

                                                                                Reply#24 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:02 AM EDT

                                                                                Along with K.I.S.S. one should always remember the "6 P's of Production"...

                                                                                Piss Poor Planning leads to Piss Poor Production.

                                                                                  #24.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:23 PM EDT

                                                                                  Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Production.

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                                                                                  #24.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:22 PM EDT

                                                                                  Yes, that is a better way to say it. :-) Thanks.

                                                                                    #24.3 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
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                                                                                     Gossman 8310,

                                                                                    The bible is accurate about physics? Really? Come on, are you trying to make people laugh?  Jesus walked on water...

                                                                                    I don't think even quantum phyisicist could help you prove that one

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                                                                                    Reply#25 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:14 AM EDT

                                                                                    I walked on water once. It was in a solid state and the temperature was below 0C.

                                                                                      #25.1 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:12 PM EDT

                                                                                      That would be cold on the the feet. :-P

                                                                                        #25.2 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:24 PM EDT

                                                                                        I can defy gravity by moving fast.

                                                                                          #25.3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT
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