Yeah Thats ma Birthday :D

Anywhere that doesn't take dogs and other pets is not heaven! Who made the rule "no Pets?"

Clearly someone allergic to dog and cat hair.

They should have chosen Nov. 2nd. It's a pallindrome, that would have scared heck out of some of the weak minded.

It really happened, the true christians are gone. If you are reading this, you are still here with the want-to-be folks and the pretenders and sinners... you are now in hell

Actually the date is 12/21/2012

Planet line up, but according to Scientists, our world may end as we know it, We could be without electronics for a while,

Bye bye cell phones.

Oh, NO< I wont be able to BLOG< AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Um....It's 12-21-2012

mas437

It really happened, the true christians are gone. If you are reading this, you are still here with the want-to-be folks and the pretenders and sinners... you are now in hell

You mean the TP & GOP are now in Hell?????

Mas what have you been smoking or taking??? Don't you know that the Bible says "we do not know at what hour the Lord Christ willl come, Not even Lord Christ himself knows but the heavenly Father" (Matt.26:36) This man who predicted the rapture is a false prophet, and has said the same thing years ago....Jesus did say to beware of wolfs in sheep clothing.....false prophets will use the word of God to entice people and God did specifically say in the Bible, that any one who uses the word of God fasely is in grave danger of judfement. I believe in God, and yes, I believe in the rapture. My Bible speaks truth, so does God...God Said it, I believe it, and that settles it! Das ist kaputz!!!!!

It's December 21, 2012, not the "23"!!!!!!!!

To predict the day and hour is plainly false from scripture, but I don't hear anyone saying anything about another false doctrine that is being tossed around with it. That is, the Rapture is not going to be a secret, where people just dissapear! Jesus Christ said "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Mat 24:27)
Aslo "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (Rev 1:7)
There is foundation in the scripture for the support of such idea of a "secret rapture"

Don't worry what were doing to this Planet we will end the World before God comes. Just wait until we start killing for water instead of oil. That's if the magnetic shield doesn't change directions as they are predicting. Or some terrorist figures out how to blow up the World with nukes.

I think man with beat God to it when it comes to his demise.

Magnetic shield? How can you statists mock the rapture, but yet give this moronic scenario credibility? Do you really think in your liberally indoctrinated and feeble mind that this or anything similar to this would really happen? Could you seriously be that stupid? Worry about your family, your health, your boyfriend and getting off the government dole and getting a job. Do not worry about climate change, global warming, unicorns and leprechauns. Well maybe leprechauns, but I assure you they're all fairytales. Sleep well tonite.

hard day at work sbill or just a generally dysfunctional personality trait I would as a liberal be happy at any point to debate you on the facts of any given situation and I can assure you, I have not been indoctrinated into anything but if you start a comment against democrats with name calling your going to end with just name calling nothing new or improved .

lol @ S.Bill LaLlik you talk about fairytales and then believe in a book written by MAN.. the bible is the biggest fairytale of them all.. dumbass..

mas437

"It really happened, the true christians are gone. If you are reading this, you are still here with the want-to-be folks and the pretenders and sinners... you are now in hell"

Bad news buddy, if your reading this then you got left behind right? well since you were still around to post that i guess you got left 2 lol!

S. Bill,

The difference is that scientists can prove that the magnetic shield IS weakening. Maybe it will not go into full reversal mode, which is has done in the past, but it will be weak enough, or so they say, that we could be more vulnerable to solar flares.

While these other doomsday predictions, and the crap in the bible, are all unproven hearsay, save for the Mayan prediction. I say that because they were more methodical in their interpretation of how events occur in a cyclical time period then some bogus math like they have in the bible. Their calenders for disasters were based off, the short count let me say now, actual historical events that they faced over their civilization's life span. The long count was more of a crap shoot, but still marginally more thought out then anything in the bible.

That said, the people who believed this old jackass should do the following:

1. sue his ass and his radio station for their losses if they gave up their property

2. form a class action against him as well

3. learn from their idiocy (and we all know this will NEVER ever happen, ever.)

Whatever happens, I am waiting. I accept anything that is coming. Either now or next lifetime, I can't wait to go to Heaven. There is a Heaven! I now it. I can feel it when I am alone. That calm and peaceful feeling is here when the Angels are around me. I will never fight it. I just pray to God, that when it all comes, to not leave me behind.

Does this make him a false prophet?

Assuming nothing happens by midnight, his church should be pretty empty tomorrow. Although I'd be tempted to go just to see how he can 'splain this one away.

Well this proves it, Barry Soetoro is still here so he must be a muslim 'cause all the true Christians are gone.

If I die and nothing happens then so be it but if I die and something happens then I am glad I am a believer.

Only God knows when he is going to send his son back not man or false prophets

If you pass the test of Moses then you are a prophet the test of Moses is correct 100% of the time

Eh, Camping's kind of malicious nonsense deserves to be mocked. I do wish people were less gleeful about claiming that he represents all of us churchgoers, though. It just ain't true.

Camping the Troll. Love it.

Yeah but Camping is $72 million richer. What was he planning to do with all that money if the Rapture DID take place?????

72 million huh? I am really against suing someone but I wonder if we can get a class action lawsuit going making him give all that money away to the people that truly need it because he "false advertised" the end times. :D

so are we gonna mock the Mayans when 2013 happens?

No, DUH! -- we mock them when they DON'T happen. You may have noticed that they NEVER do!

Did it ever occur to anyone that just maybe the Mayans didn't finished the calendar because they were dead?

the mayan calendar resets on 12/12/2012 it does not mean the world will end

maybe they ran out of room, or they were just bored of puttng numbers on a giant rock, the world may never know... of course until they invent a time machine :P

Well I do not know about anybody there, but I feel I was having an end of days today....my car died, just died. It works when I went to work, then poof, I try to start it, dead. yeah dead...........

No, the Mayans said that the world we are in now, our year 2011, and subsequently Dec 21st, 2012 is the end of the last world, as there apparently 4 previous ones that all ended in disaster and wiped out civilization as was there at the time.. dinosaurs, etc... at least that's what I got from watching the history channel. They apparently specifically said that this world only has 5.. well, I'm not sure what to call it, 5 times I guess you could say, and we're in the final 5th one that's supposed to end in the world destructing on Dec 21,2012.

Who knows? Like the bible says, no one will know the day, and I'm stickin' with that!

Ok, so asuming the history channel is correct. How do we know that they (the Mayans) knew any more than Camping the Troll? People have predicting end of times since the begining of times. Live life to the fullest in the moment given. The end will come eventually so just have no regrets when it gets here. :)

W. Goin,

he sure as hell was not taking it to heaven with him, more likely it would pay for his anal reconstruction down in hell. Isn't there a sin about greed, you know one of those big seven deadly sin ones?

Well, that will apply if he doesn't give every penny back, of course what 89 yo is going to keep records of where money like that came from. If I were him I would be looking for a place to hide right about now.

@mem

Get that over to 4Chan, it must be immortalized in the form of meme's and I recommend that the 21st be declared Rapture Day, a world wide holiday so we will never forget how a lunatic old fart whipped a small portion of the world into a craze.

Well I do not know about anybody there, but I feel I was having an end of days today....my car died, just died. It works when I went to work, then poof, I try to start it, dead. yeah dead...........

I know the feeling. My lawn mower got raptured today, too. Can't get that thing to crank.

It sucks to realize my mower has led a better Christian life than me...it really has.

The bible needs no help, it discredits itself, hundreds of times. People like you refuse the truth.

Amen brother! (sarcastic pun intended)

The bible is truth its the way people interpret things that makes other view it as just another book. Some things are literal and others are to be taken as examples. but our human minds can often times take things the wrong way and eventually lead people away from the truth by blowing things out of proportion like someone has today. when everyone who does not die today is still here they will begin to doubt because of some antichrist like this man. NOBODY knows the day and time NOBODY on earth does!!!!!

The 2 up top. I know multiple places where the bible discredits itself, and it's mainly due to translation because the new testament was written in multiple languages. And you definitely cannot give me 3 places where the Bible discredits itself without using the Internet. If you can, good for you, if you can't, learn to know about something before you argue against it.

Amen to that! God cannot be mocked nor will HE EVER!!!! It is so sad that many christians fell for this and were terrified! This man will have much explaining to do! Not even the angels in heaven know when the appointed time is! Many will come in the name of JESUS and claim they have a prophetic word! Remember the DEVIL knows the BIBLE too! There are many antichrist like people in this world! I am looking forward for CHURCH tomorrow! THANK YOU JESUS!!!

Prophet = Profit.

the bible has been reinterpreted soooo many times since its origin... and was written my men.

The first two are correct. The Bible is just another book, written by men. Belief in a God, is because people are afraid of there mortality. They use it as an excuse to act good and pretend at morality. If people spent more time helping one another instead of at church or preaching, they would make a better World. Instead they give there money to corporations(Churches ), who use it to expand there own goals and pockets.

The Bible is not a "book" Bible is latin for book of books. There are many books within the Bible as you know it today. The original "Bible" was put together somewhere around 800AD. Up until just around 150 years ago the Bible contained 80 books. 14 books were removed. I find it absolutely amazing how many of you will research and go way out of your way before you buy a car, a dishwasher etc... yet won't spend much time or thought researching the information which is vital to your soul/spirit. Further more you will close your minds or only accept what you were taught growing up. For those of you spewing your idle opinions about how false the Bible is... I'd challange you to look at the orginal texts and find errors. Let it be said (and research it yourselves) The Bible is the most accurate history book and contains many FACTS. Archaelogists, scientist and historians use the Bible as reference and a guide. An astonishing fact considering it was written by many men over the course of 2000 years and translated many times over since. You don't have to believe in God... you just have to be smart enough to understand that a computer is made up of perhaps millions of parts and designed by a man. To take it apart and put it in a box... how long would you have to shake it before it became a computer? Now, take the world as you know it... every living thing, every law of physics etc... it's far far more complicated than a computer... so, you still think there wasn't a creator of some kind behind it? As for End Of Times, Rapture etc... The Bible said no one will know when he comes. He will come like a thief in the night. But be prepared when you see these signs. For those Doubting Thomas's still out there... if I am wrong what am I to lose, for you say there is nothing more but what we have here... but if I am right and you are wrong? Well... *smile* Better hope whoever created this is indeed a loving forgiving being. In Closing, the Bible even mentions that you should NOT take a man's word, that it is your responsiblity to seek the truth. You all are quick to cast stones to sayers yet slow to take time to find the truth.

New Patriot, are you fluent in both Hebrew and Greek? If not, then you've never seen the "original texts".

Anyone can make a prediction, I'll feel pity to that stupid guy for making the announcement he should see a phsychiatrist.

Hey, New Patriot: The bible also says it's ok to beat the crap out of your slave as long as he/she recovers eventually, and that if you rape a virgin and get caught you are required to marry her. By the way: is just a story book.

Vicki, Yes :) I have seen original translations of ALL the texts by several different authors/translators. Lets not forget Aramaic either along with Hebrew, Latin and Greek. There are some small differences but the majority of the translations main thread(idea) is the same. I also have an 8 translation bible that has verses side by side making it easy to view word by word to compare. I do believe for example some of the translations in the King James were altered to fit what the Church at the time desired. Just as the Catholics (perhaps the worlds most powerful cult) have altered it to fit their own means. Vicki, I don't just blow steam dear... I know my Sh*T and can back it up :) Just sayin ;) I can go toe to toe up against priests, ministers, atheistsand all denominations. I use their own Bibles to dispell their doctrines. As much as Christians preach from the Bible, they write off it's contents (ignore) to legitimise their sins or false doctrines. It's more than a hobby or just a handful of information I've got under my "bible belt" :) Did the people mentioned in the Bible truly exist? Moses? Daniel? Jacob? for example? YES! FACT PROVEN! Did the city of Jericho really exists and did it's walls come tumbling down? YES! Fact Proven! Did Jesus exist? YES! FACT PROVEN! Those stories happened.. aside from the parables the Bible is factual history proven outside itself time and time again by archeology finds, historic tablets and documents. Yet we still have people who say the bible is fiction!? Take any one thing in the Bible and then do some research... that's all I'm asking or challenging people to do. I've been trying my hardest to find it at fault myself... it's not as easy as these people on here post that it is.

The Bible says in the last days that there will be many false Prophets and false Christ that shall arise. That's exactly what we are seeing here people.

Here is reality and you can bank on it this is happening and will continure to come to pass till all these things be fulfilled - Read On: Mark Chapter 13 verses 19-23. If you continue to read on it's very intense, and will blow you away at whats going to happen not to far into the future. Once you read this you know the truth and you are accountable for what you know.

Based on what you just said, The Davinci Code should be held as FACT PROVEN! because the Vatican is right there. And there aren't just a handfull of variants of scripture, there are thousands since back in the day there was no printing press and it all was dictated or copied by hand. And the whole computer analogy was particularly funy, since it doesn't take any hail mary's to turn it on.

@ Hellmonkey... I'm taken by your supreme logic... I bow :) That's a great example why you shouldn't believe and research the truth. Sorry... :) I mean WHY YOU of all people should. Find the book and verse that's mentioned. Guessing that's old test... then look to see who wrote the book... find some different translations... then keep reading the bible. I think you'll discover if indeed that's mentioned it was mentioned for and in the times it was written. The New test does away with a lot of the laws that were written for the Jews... you'll also note back then slavery was common practice. Spoiling a virgin back then... no one would want her, so it "law" so to speak to marry her. Weird I know, but it was a punishment to the groom who would have to provide for her for the rest of her life... women back then were not able to provide for themselves. Back then, men had many wives also. Your "example" isn't proof the bible is a "story book" of fiction. But it is certainly proof they had their own way of dealing with things back then and that particular clip of information is not what you are to do today :)

Patriot, ok. Then I vote that they take out the old testament. And all the parts of the New Testament that don't apply to today's level of education and common sense, since it does not apply. I wasn't using those examples as proof of it being a story book. I was using those as examples of why maybe you shouldn't take that thing so seriously. I'm aware how things worked back in those days. I'm also aware that humans atributed everything to gods 'cause they didn't know better. Now we now Earth is not flat or the center of the universe.

Though I certainly don't agree with your views, New Patriot, I must commend you for finding your thought patterns alone. You are a far cry from the vast number of spoon-fed zealots that I have dealt with prior. Even if I don't support it, I think everyone would be better off achieve their own conclusions, rather than fit society's mold.

However, I have a question...

In the book of Enoch, there is a quite vivid description of Enoch interacting with various extraterrestrials. Assuming we take the book of books as fact, this brings up a startling point. If a race of ETs possessed technology that was eons ahead of the best science fiction we can muster, the Influence they could wield would rival, or even equal, the might of gods. From this, I ask you, is it entirely possible that every instance of an act of God could be replaced with an act of ETs?

Not sure anyone is still chasing this thread down, but I wanted to add something here. Hellmonkey you asked why not do away with the Old Testament. If you research orthodox Christian theology you will see that the entire Bible is about restoration. God is restoring man to Him after the "fall".

The Earth was perfect after creation. When man took of the tree of good and evil, it made him aware of sin and it separated man from God and brought destruction upon the Earth. God gave man the Law- Old Testament - Moses revealed the Law to the Hebrews during their exodus from Egypt...Moses is believed to have written the first several books of the Bible and God revealled the law to him. The law was impossible for man to follow as seen throughout the old testament. According to the law, Man would sacrifice animals to COVER the sin but not remove it.

When Jesus came to earth he came as a man but the bible said he was fully God and fully man. The bible also reveals that Jesus is the word and in the beginning...before creation...the Word was with God. Jesus came to become the perfect sacrifice...his only purpose was to be this sacrifice and provide the way for man to be restored to God. The beauty of this is that man can't get there on his own...only through the belief in the resurrection of Christ. Please don't take my word for that go research this in the Bible and other historical documents....the resurrection story that is and the historical accounts of Christ's life. The difference in the sacrifice of Christ is that it REMOVED sin from man. This is significant because in Old Testament law man had to continue to try and be restored to God. After Christ resurrection man's sin was removed...so long as he accepts this truth as the only way to be restored to Christ. I am not pushing beliefs on anyone just trying to pass along the theology and the importance of both old and new testament in the bible. Hope that helps

"You don't have to believe in God... you just have to be smart enough to understand that a computer is made up of perhaps millions of parts and designed by a man. To take it apart and put it in a box... how long would you have to shake it before it became a computer? Now, take the world as you know it... every living thing, every law of physics etc... it's far far more complicated than a computer... so, you still think there wasn't a creator of some kind behind it?"

I'm surprised you can, on one hand, quite correctly make the point that "I find it absolutely amazing how many of you will research and go way out of your way before you buy a car, a dishwasher etc... yet won't spend much time or thought researching the information which is vital to your soul/spirit." and yet on the other hand you're willing to trot out that old chestnut about "how long would you have to shake it before it became a computer?", with all the willful ignorance of evolutionary processes that implies. The most cursory research would provide any number of refutations of this weak (and circular) argument. How long would you have to shake the universe before it created a God?

Yes, he's going to watch it on tv? That shows you he CONNED people, He didn't get rid of his millions did he.

Dude, you stole my idea!

lol What are you!? A Scientologist!? lol

Preying on the weakest minded people alive....thanks again Christianity!

maybe in return for their money they got some kool aid packets to help the end along .

Like I said in another place, I found my husband's dirty yard clothes on the floor going to the garage. But I did find him in the shower.......later!

Loved the pics & the videos, my favorite was the "Six feet under the Rapture"

Damn it. I spent all of last night drinking and having sex with strangers. Now I have to go repent, stupid me

Jesus comes down to vacuum them up. So when the rapture comes and you see floating vacuum bags, you now know why.

...If you're God, you can do anything!!

This is very true. The bible mentions two things I'd like to share; one is, the Lord is coming when we least expect him (Mat 24:50), the secondmentions that there will be scoffers 2 Peter 3:3-7 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, ⁴ and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” ⁵ For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, ⁶ by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. ⁷ But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. Let's get one thing straight, God is coming and boy is he mad.

I agree. Three things I'd like to mention. Mathew 24:50 Jesus is coming when we least expect him. Second, the bible mentions that there will be scoffers in the coming days just as in the days of Noah. Third he is coming like a thief in the night. Perhaps everyone will be sleeping. "Well Campings revelations were false, "let's eat, sleep and be merry." Thats exactly what people did right before the destruction took place (Luke 17:26-30). Be ready. He is real, and his return is soon. Camping just showed us how nervous people can get when they consider their appointment with God.

Coca Cola is the "real thing" and yes, I am ready for one right now.

it is real the one thing people forget is no one knows when i know their is a lot of people who don't believe in god but look around u the big bang or evolution cant account for all of the wonders u see around

What about the Spanish Inquisition, NO ONE expects that!?

Dalking--I think yours was the first Monty Python reference. Congratulations!! And thank you...

Yes & Amen!

As the great philosipher William Engvall once said" htere's your sign"

If people would read their bibles, they would know not to listen to anyone who says they know the day and the hour for the Rapture. I do agree men like Camping are the reason so many people see "the Church" as a joke when incidents like this occur.

I remember as a child, I thought I knew when the Rapture would come. I prayed, "If you make it rain this Thursday, then Jesus will be coming back on <insert random date>" or somethin to that effect. Sure enough, it rained on Thursday. I ran to my Dad and told him. He quickly corrected me by showing me the verse in Revelations stating only God knows the day and the hour. And sure enough, the rapture didn't happen.

Honestly, I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, but I can't really say. Things are getting pretty bad in the world which mirrors what's written in Daniel, but that's not enough to make me think Christians will be leaving any time soon. I could be completely wrong, and probably am, but that's just my thought on it.

wow what presure you had at such a young age, so sad what religion does to people... why must we fear people into believing something... who is to say your bible is correct, why is your bible the only one, why must your views be the only, one why must..... i could go on and on but i wont you get the idea... when you use fear you gain control it is sad that churches use fear to control people....

Lol, he didn't scare me into submission. He simply showed me why I shouldn't think that way by reading the specific verse to me from the bible.

God isn't trying to scare you into believing in him. You accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and you live right by following the guidelines set in his Word. My pastor says all the time if we're wrong then the joke is on us. I can kind of understand why people get upset because Christians say there is only one way to get into Heaven. Many think we're stuck up or something; Delusional may be the word of choice for some.

You can do as you please and go to Hell (which I guess would be the "fear" portion) or you can live right and go to Heaven. It makes perfect sense to me but I've been living this for so long. It's not like you aren't allowed to have fun or anything..I don't know, it just makes sense to me.

Azuma, here's my problem. You say that if you do as you please, you're going to Hell, but if you "live right" you're going to heaven. I've put forth this scenario several times and never gotten a clear answer. Suppose you had two men. One had spent his entire life doing things to benefit himself, no matter how many others were harmed along the way. As he ages, he has an epiphany and realizes that he has been living his life the wrong way. He sincerely repents and accepts Jesus as his savior. A week later, he dies. The second man has devoted his entire life to helping others with no thought of himself. Just to make it interesting, let's say that he found a cure for cancer, or some other terrible disease, that will save millions of lives. However, he's an agnostic (or maybe follows a non-Christian god). By what you say, the first man should go to Hell and the second should go to Heaven. But by most churches' teachings, the first man will go to Heaven because he accepted Jesus - despite the fact that all but one week of his adult life was spent screwing other people over; but the second man, who did nothing but good, will go to Hell. How can this possibly be fair?

Good. People should be pushed away from the churches. If Jesus were alive today, he would burn them to the ground anyways.

Faith doesn't require a special building or a collection plate.

It is sad but expected that many will be led to believe that this is what Christianity is about. So many people that were chomping at the bit for today to come around and so they could say, "You see, I told you it was all bogus!" The message of the Bible is not doom and destruction for all but a select few but instead a message of love and redemtion that is available for all that will receive it. Feeding on fears is cheap and low and should in no way be excused. But at the same time it is also unexcusable to make a decision on anything without finding out all the information first. I knew that there would be multitudes that would be left confused and angered by Camping's predictions. I have been speaking against them to anyone who would listen. I took the time to research his predictions so I could make a decision on my own. How many of the people talking on here saying that the Bible is a joke has actually done the research to back up their accusations. Can you actually make a reasoned argument or just parrot what you have heard others say. Look into things for yourself and make your own decisions.

Again, the Bible is God's message of love and redemption for a world that doesn't deserve it. Not doom and destruction.

VickiC-2653645

My only answer to that is the example of the thief on the cross beside Jesus who asked for forgiveness. Jesus replied, " Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in paradise". Jesus said that the only way to the father was through him. (Jesus) I am often perplexed by the bible, especially the parables, but it all comes down to one thing, "faith". That is one of the toughest hurdles a person can overcome, especially if you are like me. I was never raised to go to church and was never taught anything in the bible by my parents. Faith did not come to me until I was in my mid fifties and it wasn't a minister who brought me to it and I still struggle with it day to day, but I know what I feel, is real and it has made me want to learn more and the bible was the obvious place to start. It is just a hard book for a hard headed person like myself to get a grip on. All I can do is keep searching for answers and asking for help from God. I just hope that my heart is open, before my eyes are closed and I pray for the same for you.

VickiC, in answer to you question is that neither man deserves to go to heaven. Both have sinned and fall short of righteousness. It's not a matter of this person lived a good life and this one did not but rather that one realized that they were unrighteous and needed a saviour and the other thought they were worthy all on there own because of there good deeds. One accepted the gift of forgiveness that is offered by Christ the other was prideful and felt that I can be good enough all on my own.

VickiC point is completely true.... but it doesn't matter because religious people will never accept reality that the bible is wrong in many ways.. because the only reason people believe in God is fear. God wants people to be good, but the best way to achieve this *he forgot to tell us this important fact in bible*

is the way to ensure a person is a good person is "GOOD PARENTING"

but the bible says you should only have sex to have children. big mistake.

some people not be ready to raise a child til their in their late 20's.

deny this basic fact, because you're afraid but this makes me sad and angry... if people want to be good people..

you need to realize how a person is raised and loved and listened to (parenting) the most important element to humans being "good"

you want listen to this.. because you're afraid of god and dying and the afterlife.

that's the only reason people believe in religion.... you're to scared to realize it.

but you know what.. i don't blame you either:)

As far as religion goes I don't believe that you can only go to heaven if you go to church if god is so good why would he damn you for not going to church and worshipping him. I believe that you don't have to go to church just as long as you are a good person. Plus, you cannot believe the bible completely because things could have been exaggerated or warped through time. Sure most of it may be true but you cannot forget that it was written by people and people.

Forgiven by who? A man in a black robe?

like i said, I am Catholic

I once was a catholic. But read the bible and am now just a Christian. No hyphen between names.

You know. catholic-Christian, Bartist- Christian, etc. The catholic church tells YOU what to believe.

Do you know what Blastphemy is??? The meaning is a person on this earth that makes themselves like God or feels they have the power to do what God does. Take for instance your priest forgives sins right??? Well there is only one that can do this and that is Jesus Christ himself Not your priest or any person on this earth has the authority to forgive sins. I would say the cathlic religion is very into Blasphamy always has been. Why does anyone need religion all it is, is a bunch of rules IE gotta do,do do do Folks it has been done. Lets get back to the bible. 1 John 3:3-3:10 no man can enter my fathers kingdom except though me. Think about it

RUTH: Actually, I think of "being Christian" as being more obsessed over the whole thing than simply being Catholic. To each their own, of course, but if you tell people you're Christian, they'll assume you're one of those creepy people who are always smiling, and talking about God and Jesus non-stop.

Exactly like you stated, "through me," priests are not the ones who are actually forgiving sins, but working as a conduit between the one being forgiven and God. In some aspects you are right, throughout history the Catholic church hasn't always been all that great and is a whole bunch of rules, but it's those rules that all good human morals are based around. Regaurdless of wether or not God is or gods are real or a means that a society explained the world and its events around them, almost all religions (hence not including satanist and cultist religions) have had a good outcome and influenced people to do good rather than evil, even though there have been lapses. Religion is the basis for all human success, in proving it is real or proving it isn't, it has lead to where we are today, and even though it seems like the world has gone to crap its something that we will have to live with whether we come out of it or not.

Personally I do not feel I need a conduit to speak with God. I speak with him daily and ask for both forgiveness and direction. Things come clear to me at the oddest times during the day, so I believe I am being answered. I lack the intelligence to have all of the answers, though I do have a lot of opinions about things and it is my opinion that when you humble yourself before God and ask for help with an open heart, you will be answered. The answer may not always be what you want to hear and you may not always get what you want, but I do think you always get what you need.

"Kneel and Pray, live on hay, you'll get pie in the sky when you die!" - IT'S a LIE!

Christians! You are a small percentage of the worlds population. What makes you so sure your religion is right? You seem to revel in the idea that you are right and most people are wrong. You are Christian because you were born in a Christian enviroment. If you were born in a Muslim enviroment you would be Muslim. To believe that something as trivial as where someone was born decides whether they will live in Heaven or burn in Hell is absurd. As for Hell, what kind of god would damn billions of people to eternal horror, pain and suffering?(far worse than all of the atrocities commited by man combined) Christians accept this without blinking an eye or even seem to enjoy the thought in some cases. Why would your god create mankind only to send the vast majority to hell? It makes no sense and frankly, it's a VERY sick idea. I could never believe in a god whose primary action is to create suffering for the majority of humanity. I think Christians need to seriously reexamine thier morals.

Paul-3508068... wow... the person who asks "Do you know what Blastphemy is???" spelled it wrong twice in one post.

When you go to confession, does the priest ask you if you have received Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior? Just asking, I'm not a Catholic (I hope so)

I love it when individuals open their mouth to speak on a subject they have no clue. Just like Mr. Jamesdlat has opened his mouth and speak in regards to Christianity. I would like to answer some of his questions because he obviously never took the time to find them prior to writing on MSN. To begin his question which he states, what makes you so sure your religion is right? Mr. James our beliefs are believed to be true because the bible simply states that no man shall come to the father but through me, meaning no one gets to heaven except with a belief and trust in Jesus, as Christians we have true belief in Jesus and that’s not the case for other religions and beliefs, so that is why we believe our beliefs are correct. Moving on, you state that you are a Christian or Muslims Etc because you were born in that environment. That’s is absolutely untrue and incorrect, you become a Christian through the conviction of God, I was never raised around a Christian environment and many people I know who are Christians were never raised in that type of environment , so rethink that question sir. The last and most important question that I would like to address Mr.Jamesdlat is the one which you state As for Hell, what kind of god would damn billions of people to eternal horror, pain and suffering?. Once again if you had educated yourself in regards to the bible, you would have known that God doesn’t send anyone to Hell, we as humans send ourselves, thorough sin and disobedience. God gives us every chance in the world to repent and receive his mercy, that’s why he sent Jesus into this world, but we are to blind to see the opportunity he has given us. The truth is , the world is full on non believers and that bible says there will be non believers until the end of days, but when you are standing before God to be judged, then it will be too late. Jesus says if you deny me before man, I will deny you before my father and Jesus is the key into heaven. Just thought I would let you know so you are bettered informed for next time you make comments.

Aw man! I was hoping I'd turn into a corvette ):

Oh, @!$%#, the bills are still here

People made fun of Noah, too.

... and now I'm going to make fun of you. The fact that you (and others) can't recognize that "Noah's Ark" is a fictional story makes me very sad for the state of education and lack of critical thinking amongst my fellow citizens. Your world view is broken. Please try to fix it.

gundeck: i am with you!! too funny!! i love to hear the banter that goes on...you all make my day!

and atheists are so nice that they don't commit most of the drugs, sex, violence in our society. How many of the sex maniacs are true bible-thumpers and please don't bring up priests as they were not true bible people just pretenders. All the drugs, gang members are not religious people but actually atheists as they don't believe they will pay for their sins so why worry about committing any?? Let see you debate that point.

it doesn't sound to my opinion like a true atheist the one you describe to debate

I'm an Atheist and I've never done drugs, I'm not violent nor a sex maniac. I treat people the way everyone should be treated, with respect. Regardless of their religion, orientation, etc.

I'm a nice person, have a job, pay my taxes and vote. What's your debate?

actually a lot of christians are exactly that, drug abusers, sex addicts, ect. just like the rest of the people in the world, being a christian or anything else doesn't make you better, and sure as hell doesn't give you the right to stick up your nose LordTbone, and plenty of gang members wear crosses fyi

"plenty of gang members wear crosses" wow...wearing a cross doesn't mean anything. That's like musicians who talk about nothin but sex and drugs giving thanks to God for their awards. God has nothing to do with that.

The cross is just a symbol. It's the same as wearing a chain with a dollar sign hangin off the end.

I definitely don't agree with the statement that atheists are the cause of all bad things in society. I know plenty of good people who don't believe in God.

Many see the cross as a holy symbol, but personally I don't see it that way. I see it as one of the tools that was used to kill people and more specifically my savior, Jesus Christ. I cannot see anything good about displaying the empty cross and will not display one in my home or on my person. If Jesus had been beaten to death with a hammer, would we display one on our walls? This is one of the only views that I share with Catholics, if you must display the cross, the crucifix is more about what the cross means, but I don't intend to display it either. At least the crucifix does define the meaning of the cross as a means to kill Jesus. I do not mean this as a slam against Catholics, because they worship the same god that I worship, we just share differant views about the methods. My apologies to any Catholic that is offended by this post.

All the drugs, gang members are not religious people but actually atheists

LordTbone,

Back that up with some facts and maybe you'd have a good point. But I suspect when you actually do a little research and attempt to come up with some data, you will be disappointed with the results.

you are in dander my friend ,you are making the ultimate gamble ....foolish to gamble with your soul ,if I'm wrong and I know 100% I'm not , I have 0 to lose ! What about you ? What do you have to lose ,your pride ...no ! Your ego ,no ! Your soul , so we who are Christians will pray for you because the time will come when every knee will bow and unfortunately ,for some ,it will be too late . One more thing I would like to add ,a person cannot separate government from gospel . You ask " How can this be " and I say this ,every single legal document is signed and dated ,for instance today is May 21 ,2011 hummmmmm 2011 what ? Two thousand eleven days AFTER THE BIRTH OF CHRIST ...... I rest my case

wow he died 5 and a half years ago? your case has nothing to rest on... what you believe is what you are told to believe by someone that you think has the answers, the bible has been written over time and stories were added for the time that it was written to fear people into the church its a scam you cant be 100% right because of a book that has been written and rewritten and translated, things removed things added all at different times if the bible was correct there would only be one so called bible...

you actually aren't 100% sure that you are right, hence why being a christian takes faith as you can never truly know but can only believe you are :)

Actually, James. There's plenty of people who use "CE" and "BCE" as a common dating stamp. And, one day, there will probably be something similar to a "Stardate", meaningless to argue your governmental statement based on a couple of letters/words. Also, it seems sufficiently prideful of you to suggest that "Doubter" would be considered "too late" and if I remember my scriptures, Satan has a special place for people who are prideful and judgmental. I've always found it most interesting that people, such as myself, who don't believe in the "Son of God" make better Christians than those who are. But, if it makes you feel any better to be intolerant of people based on their beliefs, I offer you the chance to sin further by posting a reply.

So your God likes his flock to display arrogance? You 100% claim is nothing more than that. Seems your God likes you to judge others as well.

Also, it's every knee will bend, not bow. How does one bow a knee?

I seperate religion from government every day of my life. Don't inflate your own ego because 2011 years ago, someone decided the birth of Jesus was a good time to start the calendar over. In a time blinded by religions, what other event do you think they would use?

well the thing is Jesus didnt start a religion or was interested in religion, He came to resolve the biggest problem human kind ever had, and that is a heart problem, a problem that is inside us and its called sin, which is disobedience from God our creator, and because of our disobedience, we had to be separated for an eternity from Him who is holy, but eventhough we decided not to have anything to do with Him, he still wanted for us to be with Him , and thats why Jesus died for us our creator, our God, that whosoever just believes in Him be it rich or poor healthy or crippled, whoever asks His forgiveness recieves it through Jesus who died for us, so Jesus didnt start a religion he came to resolve a broken relationship between us and God. it was the religious people of that time that crucified Him, they wanted to kill him often times, and Jesus said at one time for what good deed do you do these things to Me, (he healed the sick etc.) they told him it is not for a good deed we do these things but because You claim to be the Son of God, (thats what He said) now do you think He was lying? if he was a liar none of the people who were following him have chosen to die for Him, unless they were absolutely sure Jesus was who he said He was and Jesus told them that He will die but after 3 days rise again, and He did! and praise the Lord for that because unlike other religions who follow other great people.. they all died.. and cant help with anything but Jesus rose again and is there to help anyone who reaches his cand out to Him, and so these poeple who were with Him, saw him after being crucified for our sins, and were 100% sure Jesus was who he claimed to be and that is the Son of God. our life today and our eternity depends all on what we think about Jesus. I know he changed allot of peoples lives, and if Jesus wasnt real I wouldnt be here today, so praise the Lord for what he did for us, and everyone should take into consideration the biggest act of love ever shown, and that is the creator of the heavens and earth, and everything that exists to die for His creation that strayed away from Him, but the saddest thing is that we continue to do so today. but He waits for anyone who wants to accept and recieve His love and mercy.

Actually, Jesus was a Jew who was concerned to loosen the very restrictive laws governing who could and could not be ritually cleansed before entering the Temple; this is the significance of the broad "baptism" movement, led by John, that Jesus joined as a follower. Historically, John's role was gradually minimized by early Christians in order to emphasize Jesus (there are still remnant churches of "John the Messiah" in the Middle East).

The point is, Jesus' movement was about Judaism, and for Jews, and it does not appear from an examination of the extensive writings of the early Christian movement that he was regarded as anything more than a human being, either by himself or his followers. It was only later, as a result of the Pauline tradition, that the movement was claimed to be open to gentiles. It seems that Paul, who had never met Jesus, was regarded as a fraud by the surviving disciples who had known Jesus.

The "supernatural" Jesus was a later addition.