IBM thinks about the next 100 years

IBM's centennial video features 100 people, each presenting an achievement from the year they were born.

A hundred years from now, will we be assimilated by the machines? Or will we assimilate them? These are the kinds of issues facing International Business Machines as the company begins its second 100 years.

Right now, most folks are thinking about the past 100 years at IBM, which is celebrating the centennial of its founding on Thursday. But for Bernard Meyerson, the company's vice president of innovation, it's all about the next century.

"That's pretty much what we think about," Meyerson told me today.


Meyerson has plenty to look back on, including his own not-so-small part in IBM's past innovations. When his cell phone dropped the connection during our telephone conversation, he called back and casually mentioned that he had a hand in creating the transistors built into that cell phone. And when I asked him to explain, he said, "I actually invented the technology known as silicon-germanium."

It turns out that IBM has played a behind-the-scenes role in all sorts of technologies, ranging from semiconductor development to barcodes to Wi-Fi. "IBM is a funny company," Meyerson said. "We don't force you to put a little sticker on anything that says, 'We're the smart guys.'"

But enough about the past: What about the future? "Going forward, you have tremendous opportunities," particularly when it comes to making sense of the huge databases that are being built up in all sorts of fields, Meyerson said. For example, imagine a system that can take medical records from the 285 million people around the world with diabetes, anonymize those records and analyze them, looking for potential new treatments or preventive measures.

"The fact is, there is no mechanism today that could do that, and the reason is that medical data is unstructured," he said. There's little consistency in how the records are kept, and medical conditions might be described in different ways by different doctors.

When you put together the volumes of data and the numbers of people that have to be covered in these massive, unstructured data sets, the figures mount up to quintillions of bytes. That's the challenge facing new types of computing tools — for example, the Watson supercomputer, which won a highly publicized "Jeopardy" quiz-show match earlier this year. Now Watson is being put to work on a tougher task: making sense of medical records, which is just the kind of job Meyerson has in mind.

Still other challenges await. Watson-style computers could digest the millions of data points involved in tracking the flow of highway traffic, then develop models to predict where the tie-ups could arise before they actually happen. The computers of the next century will have to handle a wide range of "big data" challenges, ranging from climate modeling to natural-language search engines for multimedia.

Meyerson doesn't expect Watson to answer that challenge completely. A hundred years from now, Watson will almost certainly be considered a quaint antique, much like the tabulating machines that were made back in 1911.

"Watson specifically is not the issue, as much as the combination of Watson's ability to interpret natural language, the capacity to store 'big data' and apply data analytics to come up with solutions for society," he said. "In the absence of natural language, you're going to have a short, unhappy life attempting this work. Without that key ingredient, how are you going to take the interaction of humans and machines to the next level and make it easy?"

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"Star Trek" captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) is fitted with gizmos for a fictional Borg transformation. The blending of humans and hardware will probably be more artful in real life by 2111.

What will the next level be in the year 2111? "Honestly, at 100 years I'm genuinely unsure," Meyerson said. The past century has shown that the pace of technological advancement can be highly variable, depending on what kinds of breakthroughs come to the fore. But if Meyerson had to bet on one particular game-changing technology, it would be coming up with a direct interface between computing circuits and the human brain.

"If it turns out that there is a very natural way to communicate data back and forth without being obtrusive, then the whole world changes," he told me. This wouldn't be a Borg-like assimilation, in which humans look increasingly like machines. Rather, the machines would blend into the human body.

Does that sound like a grand dream for the next century? Or a nightmare? Feel free to chime in with your comments below.

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have phones with two operating systems and two processors, one an open source like android, the other, a proprietary system such as the iphone os. Have the second processor running the more open source os have as many cores as possible so as to increase the aggregate processing power when you connect all of these phones on the internet. This is then connected to the 'cloud' and various electronic devices such as laptops who interface with the same set up; a default two processor system (as technology improves, two computers can be put in one as a default). Your phone then acts as a processor for a giant computer generated across the planet using the internet, but does not compromise your privacy because you are using two devices and two different connections. This 'hive mind' can then be used to solve many problems, such as disease simulation, air quality mapping(through sensors), and so forth. In turn, it also acts as a background AI that can be used to test an idea by any inventor on the planet, not to mention have 'embedded' protocal AI, which sorts all medical data, like watson.

In turn, people could pay for their phone bill by 'allowing' their processing power to be used for free. This would in turn, create a free internet because the costs would come out of the equation when you have software writers and AI testers using the cloud 'for free' in exchange for phone subscribers using the internet 'for free'. Hence, the real cost would go into the underlying phone, paying the cable providers by extentsion through some global partnership.

This allows costs for electronics and innovaiton to go down, and generates a highway of accelerating returns as pretty much any AI or robotic inspiration that comes into some person's mind can be simulated. Couple this with a 3 d printer that is pre fabricated to generate any geometric metalic object that can be 'put' together into a robot, having the capabiltiy of printing plastic electronic circuits as well, and we further accelerate toward the day that we approach actual intelligence in a machine.

Once this system is in place, all that it would take would be a shift in cell phones from transistors to memristors, as per new advances at intel (it could also become another monopoly, which is never good), a thousand fold increase in bandwidth (which is very very likely by 2015 and beyond) and you end up with the processing power of many times the human mind way before 2029.

Watson could then just act as a program protocal in this system instead of an actual machine hosted by a for profit company. Im pretty sure....any company that gets into this framework first...will be very well positioned to make much more profit than if it tries to control it (in the order of hundreds of billions of dollars)

    Reply#1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:51 AM EDT

    tl;dr

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    #1.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:45 PM EDT

    Brilliant! Who are you?

      #1.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:46 PM EDT

      Better get a patent. Or is it a trademark? Hmmm...

        #1.3 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:32 AM EDT
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        other potential uses include the ability to have medical tests instanteously on your phone with some mini nano lab; This has already been accomplished, it will take about 6 years for this to ramp up and be commonplace, and if this framework is in place, then the ai can use the data and pretty much be your own doctor...bringing down medical costs radically .

        Much of the costs in medicine come from preventable causes. If some insurance system would require all people to test themselves in exchange for absolute coverage no matter your history (universal heatlh care, but I would be more for a republican plan down the road, the current one is too beaurocratic), then the constant testing on your cell phone would allow preventable measures to be given without it ever becoming a critical problem -this would be a requirement to get the medical benefits.

        Furthermore, the endless simulation would surely lead to advances in curing disease, allowing for therapies to go down in cost dramatically. For example, instead of a costly surgery for your heart, if you can test yourself on your phone and use the enormous capacity for simulation to simulate your specific proten profile, a drug specific to you can be developed to 'clean' your arteries the way drycleaner is used in your washing machine.

        Since this AI will be simulated on the cloud and not properitary as a default, no company will be in the position to monopolize these discoveries and these treatment costs will go down exponentially.

        I expect once we get this bandwagon moving however, genetic engineering may eventually be a great asset in battling disease way before it ever expresses it self in protein expression.

          Reply#2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:02 AM EDT

          I'd like to volunteer for this human-computer interface lol. About time we get some technopunk Mona Lisa Overdrive goodies...

            #2.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:16 AM EDT

            "the endless simulation would surely lead to advances in curing disease, allowing for therapies to go down in cost dramatically."

            See, you're in danger already. Drug companies want to keep you sick, not cure you. There's no profit in curing. Same with the insurance companies and hospitals. The whole economy would tank if the mindless, endless growth stopped increasing.

              #2.2 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:35 AM EDT

              Ditto. Anyone who thinks for a minute that the further explosion of techno capacities in respect to trancending the abilities and functions of man (Transhumanism) will truely be for the benefit of humanity is insane. The innovators can wrap and decorate their enslaving creations however they choose, but at the end of the day it is what it is.

                #2.3 - Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
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                 Now, by a misinformed perspective, companies may see these developments as a threat. A world where there are distributed electronics could mean the extinction of IBM. A world where transactions are done by phone could eventually lead to a system where the money supply is autmatically adjusted for inflation by an algorithm, denying any function to the federal reserve. Distributed Banking online such as micro financing could eventually bring down huge institutional banks. An all content world where everything is ip based can be perceived as a great threat to media companies and traditional cable providers. A world where medical treatments can be found instanteously may pose a threat to doctors by the same very perspective. This is why the saying the 'old world msut die for the new one to be reborn' is often used to describe such transitions.

                However, I think such reactions are highly unecessary and unevovled in their paranoid thought process. In reality, no matter the mathematical construct of a system, all elements will be equal across systems if each adapts to their part whithin. That means that doctors can be just as in much good use, IBM can still exist and make enormous profit (more than now, many times more), media companies can continue existing, banking institutions can still provide huge benefits for all their top ceo's and cable companies can still have all their special priviledges. Sounds fantastic doesn't it ? Well its true. You see by giving way to this world, you increase efficiency, which in turn increases productivity. In this world, there wil always be a need for concentrated processing 'nodes' no matter how distributed, and hence, the likes of IBM and CISCO can still provide for their shareholders in abundance by shifting and adapting into RESEARCH CENTERS. Since productivity will be so high it will be 'harder' to make a 'buck' because so much more will be 'free' hence, deflation will take effect due to the outrageous productivity and higher standard of living. This will in turn, make any profit that is actually made twice, thrice of 40 times as valuable, depending on the profit. In a world where everything is free, the guy that earns the one dollar is king.

                So by equivalence, IBM, by adapting and 'merging' with this new system, it will be just as 'profitable'..because by all the major institutions allowing the birth of the 'new world'...the radical efficiency and productivity will bring everyone standard of living up but the amount of money earned down, hence the fewer dollars IBM does earn, will in equivalence, be more than the profit they earned in the previous system..precisely because they will be earning in a world of radical efficiency and productivty.

                The same goes for doctors. If doctors 'lose' their job during the transition, they will eventually find their way in research and development, writting and testing the very software that will help patients out. The 'old' doctors will simply earn money by seeing many many patients throughout a day...via 'tele presence'...hence, they will make 'less' per patient, but due to a world with radical efficiency and productivity, will end up making 'more' purchasing power due to the aggregate of the patients they do see.

                Media companies will no longer be the 'distributers' of content...this will give way to the internet...but this will mean they will in turn, end up owning more content...since more customers will demand higher quality ccontent since the world will be purely content based as far as entertainment, no narratives or whatever, then money will be a good source to 'prime' content that different psychological sets may be more prone to.They may make less 'absolute' money...because there will truly be so much content as to bring the costs drastically down for entertainment....but due to the NUMBER of consumers (jumping exponentially due to a global marketplace) the total PURCHASING POWER (REAL VALUE OF MONEY) goes up...

                Banking may become distributed and turn into software and micro-financing. But the major institutions will simply turn into 'networks' that provide the same services for much much less, and the worldwide transactions will allow the fraction upon fraction of pennies to add up to the same profit and way more as those attained in the previous system---the enhances efficienchy and productivity in allocating and turning  capital will mean a more vibrant economy,  precisely because money can be attained easier by those who truly deserve it, which in turn will mean higher margins on interest rates due to the low costs to entry...

                this means the very few that actually do operate any network exchange ,which will be global in scale, will still be super extremely rich beyond measure, in equal measure ,in fact, to the productivity of the collective system.

                So you see, this new world and 'old orders' are not at all mutually incompatible. The least resistance offered by old orders are precisely the ones that are not only most likely to survive, but thrive. Enhanced efficiency, productivity and automation does not mean 'less' jobs, it just means that it takes time for the 'new' jobs to appear and the new world to 'emerge' or 'manifest' This is otherwise known in economics as 'creative destruction'

                Nevertheless, no 'destruction' needs to take place. If companies adapt they will merge seemlessly and create 'more' jobs. So why are we not seeing this in our reality?

                Primaly because those resisting are large governments and large institutions (such as corporations). They resist the changes to a lgobal market, the government passes laws that make it harder for jobs to transfer across borders because of the lost jobs, and PRECISELY BECAUE THEY DO, they lose jobs, a self fullfilling prohpehcy. The world may have more peopel competing for your job, but it also has more customers.

                It is this very resistance which will cause these behemoths to experience what they very fear-extinction. By going after wikilieaks, by going after smaller media outfits and trying to co opt the system I described above with marketing such as google, cisco or IBM may seek to do, THEY MANIFEST THE VERY FEAR. And end up going extinct, because the new world is 'feeling' its way around these rules and slowly but surely, 'rectifying the mathematical imbalance.' Hence, if you act as a 'threat' to this 'spirit'...you will be 'eliminated' because the 'spirit' is 'detecting' you as the only thing 'against' its existance. It sees you as 'another' and hence 'sees' 'dangerous'.

                You in turn, see it as dangerous and so react even more aggressively, and so on and so forth. But we know how this movie ends, eventually these things ARE GOING to happen, there is no stopping them lest we go into a mad max world, therefore, the only thing we must do is adapt, and REAP ENORMOUS PROFIT.

                I do not think small bussiness and even many large bussinesses have a problem. Bussienss is about adaptation. However, some large institutions have a beaurocratic 'spirit' that is hard to 'escape' from. Every individual in the company may agree with what I state here, but there is a culture and an enormous 'gravity' that 'pulls' them back from doing what everybody sees should be done. THe logic is, if i do it, ill lose my job, and im not going to make a difference, so i might as well sit quietly and see what happens. Everybody does this, and so what happens? nobody does anything. In these institutions, leadership is key, because often only the leader can break the 'dark voodoo.' If the leaders see what I described above, then they will be able to inject a new 'programing code' into the institution, allowing the adaption of the entire organizaiton by changing the programming in the spirit, and spurring people to do what they see already makes sense.

                The problem however, is that often, these institutions are ignorant at the top, and most knowledgeble at the bottom (these are few, but often, they are very powerful and many are inahbited by the dark). Hence, the bottom never has the courage to tell the top what is actually occuring. Since the top usually prides itself on honesty with its employees, usually, if you have a benevolent boss (warren buffet, etc), then a 'session' asked by you, could not possiblity hurt (know that thew top may not know what you know-don't think this as arrogance but simply humility in the face of organizational mechanics-everybody can benefit from someone elses perspective). This usually can resolve any inconsistency because by having an 'open' discussion you will either leave iwth two feelings- hmm, he/she got it, and then you observe and see if the changes make the system better...

                however...if you leave the meeting and feel that there is something wrong..he or she did not 'get it' ....i cannot get 'through to him or her' and things ...know one thing...

                if you got it, they definitely got it...what you are experiencing is the dark force...You will come out perplexed due to their clever 'logic' but you will FEEL as if things 'arn't quite right'

                if this is you, you are in an institution operating under the influence of a dark force, or a stupendous ignorant baffoon. In either case, both are just as dangerous. In such cases, you should seek to bypass the 'top' and try toget consensus amongst the employees to find a replacement. However, first you msut get consensus. What the dark is excellent at is to give you enough logic to make you think twice, but not enough information to make you feel self-assured, hence, you 'dangle' on a string and never become resolute as a group. This is the  dark's greatest asset, to keep you confused. In order to pierce the darkness, you either must inform them, and bring them to the light (for they are in a darker place than you) through undersanding *(not morality) and reason...educating and informing them in a humble manner...or you need to bypass them with evasive tactics in the same symmetry that they have done onto you..

                every human has a responsibility to do this. For in not doing this, you are in effect, consenting to bring great suffering to the human race, to other americans, to your family...because of your lack of action to do what I described once you see it clearly, you allow the 'dark' spirits to 'solidify' isntitutions and counter act the 'natural way' (tao). Hence, you create destruction because of this friction, and allow the dark to justify more control due to the very destruction they themselves caused (self justifying system).

                But remmember, dark is only lack of information, and light information. You must also try to bring the dark forces to your side, for they are simply misinformed. You can get the same gratification from the feelings of power in other ways. Unfortunately, the human race was redesigned for subservience by dark forces, and hence often all that which is good for us is diametrically opposed to what we like.This is simply ignorance. Transcend your impulses and realize that power is simply a neural need and impulse, like anything else. It c an be reprogrammed so the person may be more in turn with something else, allowing them to enjoy something that is in coherence with the 'the way' (tao).

                If you resist this way, you are simply creating more dark 'nodes' by which the dark can perpetuate and 'reproduce.'

                  Reply#3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:24 AM EDT

                   know that the institutions permeated by the dark force are very few (dont start becoming paranoid about it), but they do hold key positions of power. Some are interdimensional and indeed very 'intelligent' relative to your current state. But look at them as the translation 'chinese room'...they are like machines, they know how to translate symbols and keep you guessing, but they do not know what the words actually MEAN...they are actually DUMBER than you from a pure intelligence aspect. Think of them as very intelligent SAVANTS that can calculate very quickly but are horrible at everything else. They are indeed not very unlike the agents in the matrix.

                    Reply#4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:36 AM EDT

                    there are two types of illuminti. The illuminati of the light, and the illuminati of the dark. The illuminati of the light perpetuate a pattern in nature in order to free the human race from its enslavement--they hold more information than the dark power so they are able to influence affairs in the world simply by recognizing the pattern and 'triggering' it across time.--they are made up of geniuses, clergy, mathematicians, scientists who are direct descendents in philosophy to the founding fathers and issac newton--limited government and libertarianism--that is not to say these are the only 'ways' but they found them key 'counter balancing' forces on your planet to defend against the dark--by most measurs, they are all communists at heart--you owe great service to these souls for they are allowing our presence to manifest in your reality..

                    The other illuminati is obssessed with global domination and since they cannot see the pattern (if they did, they would automatically be of the light--you can bridge it through morality or intellect), they can only enslave and control through positions of enormous power..it just so happesn that centralization of power is the best way for them to do this..a means to an end as it were.

                    So they have perverted many ideologies, including progressivsm, fascism, corporati-sm, capitalism...it does not matter- these are just words...it does not matter from what system it originates or gets its inception-companies/private sector or government/public sector--that is irrelevant...they pervert any system in specifics, often the ones that are in idea and essence the best (such as communism) and pervert them by designing a system that does not configure with the idea but in name.

                    Hence the monicker "the devil is in the details"

                    This is why washington DC is often very dangerous...because swings of passion can be co opted by the dark force and specify legistlation and policy made in DC with ramifications not even known by the very senators passing the legislation...only the dark knows because the dark has permutated the interactions..for the forces of perssure, although appear random, all 'equal each other out' (for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction) to their design (think of them as the emperor in star wars--they are orchestrating an eventual end by the equilibrium of the sum of the pressures).

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                    Reply#5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:46 AM EDT
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                     do not give into this senseless violence. Be calm. Be at peace.

                      Reply#6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:01 AM EDT

                      btw, the reality of a borg would never be like star trek. A collective hive mind could be acheived by a super intelligence concentrated in one place and ocntrolling various bodies, either robotic, organic, or a combination. Or a distributed intelligence arising by many small bodies that communicate incessantly (like neurons) and incidentally controls, the various smaller agents which are also mobile--think of this like a hive of bees. This would be the actual borg. Not a human-machine combo. The whole human would be re-designed by the borg. In fact, the dark ones evolved from something like the borg. They can only evolve to a certain point and are more 'machine like' in their thinking than organic (there can be machines that think organically, such as memristic devices, etc). The only way to free them is to integrate them into YOUR system, for you are t-1000 and they are just terminator.

                        Reply#7 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:15 AM EDT

                        One small piece of advice SILL, When you post a book's worth of information on a blog, VERY FEW people will ever read it all. (I myself skipped 90%)

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                        Reply#9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

                        you are right, i am not very concise or linguistically coherent right now.

                          #9.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

                          It's psychedelic mushrooms isn't it? ;-p

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                          #9.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:19 PM EDT
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                          Public education of the future needs to be dominated by artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is the best way to configure education to each individual human brain, while also tirelessly providing the interactive redundancy needed to reinforce human learning. It can also intricately map out the progress of each person's developing brain, and focus on those key areas which need reinforcement, and do all of this with many different kinds of engaging interactive games, etc. which entertain the human brain at the same time as educate the students. This in turn will enable educators of the future to concentrate on more complex aspects of human psychological, sociological, cultural and cognitive development, while leaving much of the drudgery of academic education to artificial intelligence. But there will still be a need for human educators at all levels, especially since modern day communications and media technologies can enable a few top notch educators to create large libraries of classes on disks which in turn can be used to teach tens of millions of students, while allowing artificial intelligence to interactively answer their questions so these educators don't have to be physically present. I anticipate that much of our education in the future will not require the transportation of students to a physical school, since these educational programs can be provided online to each person's home, and artificial intelligence can monitor the presence and the progress of each student at home via the internet, too. By allowing education to occur at home in this way, each student can stop the educational program anytime that they want, to either ask a question or to replay the program. It will also enable artificial intelligence to create an individualized course of study which addresses each student's educational needs in an intimate way. This should prove much more time and cost efficient (not to mention much less boring) for students of the future, while producing a much higher quality of student at the same time. Students can even link together with other students in their homes at the same time, if they need that kind of social reinforcement. They could even participate in virtual classrooms of the future online from the convenience of their homes. I can only hope that home based industries for parents will grow at the same time to complement this type of future education in the home, and hopefully artificial intelligence can be used to empower that to happen as well. - Rick Carter

                            Reply#10 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:16 AM EDT

                            One huge reason why we need individualized education of this sort is that people don't end up in the same place in life once they become adults. Each student's talents and abilities can be continually assessed from early on in an ongoing way by both artificial intelligence and human educators, and based upon these ongoing assessments each person can be individually guided to an ideal place of fulfillment in adult life over the entire course of their public education. I believe we are going to need to focus more and more upon specialized education in the future, especially as our human knowledge base continues to double every decade or so. - RC

                              #10.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:35 AM EDT
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                              www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUBOzk_0cg

                              once you see what the light is, you realize how lame the dark really is.

                              Kind of like comparing duke nukem forever with halo or half life or portal or...really any other video game on the face of the earth.

                              Duke nukem is crap, the others are not. Dark is crap, light is not.

                              I hope you understand. It really is not a matter at all about good vs evil. Its a matter of stupid vs smart. There can be a lot of smart people playing duke nukem as top players, it doesn't take away from that fact that the actual system is fckin stupid.

                              Anyway, just wanted to leave you with that 'meaning.'

                              There really is nothing 'attractive' about darkness. Any experience anyone wants to experience, as dark as it might be, can be experienced in the light. Darkness is really more akin to a snake oils salesmen with bad breath, fat and bald, seeming attractive, fit, intelligent and witty.

                              This is why its called an 'illusion.' Its a total lie. Even for the people partaking in it. They don't realize how much they would enjoy their lives in the light, so they turn to the dark. Thats it. Darkness is lack of information, and light information. Morality comes into play because the people that are good faithful people, that love and love others, BUT ARE IN THE DARK, ARE IN GODS DEBT, and since karma is so rare in the universe, they are greatly REWARDED...they do the IMPOSSIBLE...they go against the flow for some higher concept which is the light. People in the dark are not so much 'punished' in the afterlife, but are in great shame and have a lot of 'debts' to pay. They are really behind on their mortage so they must do a lot of 'favours.' Thats all.

                                Reply#11 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

                                positive karma is so rare*

                                  Reply#12 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

                                  I typed 'fckin' to stress it in a dark psychology. In reality the meaning behind it is entirely unecessary.

                                    Reply#13 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

                                    I hope we can grow artificial intelligence in the future in a sedimentary way, by precipitating different types of artificial neurons inside of a fluid filled container. We can even eliminate much of the need for dendrites by enabling these artificial neurons to communicate with each other using selective frequencies of light, and these future artificial brains can also feed on pure light using fiber optic capillaries which are added as these artificial brains are grown in these fluid filled containers. - RC

                                      Reply#14 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:01 AM EDT

                                      (I would expect that this will be a dielectric fluid which can then be hardened into place, or else replaced by a fluid which can be hardened or solidified into place, once the artificial brain if fully grown.) - RC

                                        #14.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
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                                        One question sill, or anyone else reading this comment... Do you really believe that we are "enslaved"?

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                                        #15 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                                        do you not realize the pointless nature of your question? of course you do.

                                        It is self evident you do not wish to ask a question. Your point is well taken.

                                        ,

                                          #15.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:20 AM EDT

                                          If you define enslavement as involuntary servitude, then I think a certain percentage of humanity is always going to be enslaved, because I seriously doubt that this will ever be a 100 percent perfect world which allows every person to live however they please and do whatever they want, regardless of the consequences to others or to themselves. In fact, I wouldn't even view that as a perfect world myself. - RC

                                            #15.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

                                            Rick Carter,you are operating on a set of assumptions that you have always lived with your entire life.

                                            The greater reality is kind of beyond current human understanding (we are getting there though), thats why its sometimes best to have 'faith.'But let me put it this way; You already possess the knowledge of all the geniuses combined, the knowledge of the universe, its secrets, the ability to harness the energy around you and to change reality at will. You are the universe becoming self aware of itself. Before you, a primate became self aware of his own thoughts through those paintings on cavern walls...hence, he ceased to be primate, and became man. They were aware that those feelings for that other in the tribe were in fact feelings of affection. This is why humans can recognize themselves in the mirror and most other primates cannot. The next stage of awareness is kind of like skynet, you become aware of your own 'source code'...since you have the seed of the big bang whithin you, containing all the information of all the atoms, molecules and physical laws which you have studied so incessantly...you really don't have to look anywhere but inside...you contain all the answers, you must simply become self aware of what we already call 'the thought form.'

                                            does it not seem weird to you that you must 'study' math? you are a mathematical genius, you have the processing power in your own mind that is unrivalled by all the processing power of all the computers on the planet combined. How is that even possible? Isn't it weird to you that you have to 'learn' language...you see language is just a semantic representation of what the universe already is...a semantic tautological self justifying truism. Letters are actually manifestations of a congitive language that is much deeper and already exists...This is what the bible describes as the 'seperation' of the one language that did not allow humanity to understand each other. The one language is a semantic language...more akin to this:

                                            www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnsc4yROnU

                                            (don't pay attention to the narrative behind the video, the title or anything , just concentrate on the message.)

                                            than imprecise spoken word and written word. It is psychic, wavey. You communicate naturally by something called a psychic resonance or frequency. You can talk to animals if you tapped into it...this is what was intended. That you were connected to all of creation and showed it love, and so, it would show love back to you. Once you realize all creations are really equal in thought form (all have the same opportunities at enlightment-the prom queen is always obssessed with looking prettier, the genius with more knowledge, the oppressed nerd with more power), and that by loving you can be 'one' in essence, and hence more 'powerful' (you know what triggers the stem cell rejuvenation in embryos? a frequency...this frequency you refer to as 'love' ..we simply see it for what it is...the higher frequency allows the cells to want to make 'proud' the 'higher self' which is incidentally you...it then 'becomes like liquid' and due to the holographic fractal nature of reality, it 'tunes' its outer form in order to be in line with the inner forms (higher patterns of complexity contain lower patterns of complexity, but each mimic each other, and each contains without and whithin infinite structures that in turn contain whithin and whithout an infinite amount of structures in their likeness)..this is the true 'happiness' of 'being'..because you get the universe through substraction. Observed it is limited, unobserved, infinite.

                                            You may not understand the perfect existance because you are imperfect. But there is ANOTHER WAY. You seem to think that you need some servitude for a system to work. THis is wrong. Your whole evolutionary process is SPECIFIC TO PLANET EARTH. That is not to say that 'intelligent' design is right or wrong, evolutionary is indeed, mathematically and scientifically 'correct.' But understand that it is not the only creation POSSIBLE whithin creation. For creation contains all possibility. You may reason that it is impossible to have such a system (one where there is not some dog eat dog) but you are coming from the perspective of a limited mind, and from such a perspective, you are indeed correct. Humans cannot devise the 'perfect' system because seperately, no one man can envision, in current form, the 'perfect' system. It would be unknowable and hence, would only culminate in terrible failure. But that doesn't mean that say, a being a trillion times more intelligent than you, say, a future computer you invent, or a GOD, CANNOT DEVISE SUCH A SYSTEM. It just means that YOU, in your current present dormant state, cannot envision the system. So you cannot say that a utopia is impossible, and neither can you say it is possible. You simply do not know.

                                            And I am here to tell you, that there is indeed, such a system. There are MANY such systems.

                                            Let me give you 'another' evolutionary thought process:

                                            instead of competition, beings love each other and consume energy by the sun and 'a smart grid' but for biology. They all have an individual mind, and a 'hive' mind. The 'hive' mind gives them peace, and if one animal is found to be 'not the most perfect form for the environment' it sacrifices itself and its conciousness is transferred to another animal, which in turn, loves this sacrifice, and perfects the genepool through a direct link up through the 'one.' Since no one being is seperate, it matters not if one being is less intelligent or less fast than another, for that being can experience the strength, speed and intellect of one who does possess these characteristics through the 'one' in 'dreaming'....Hence, it will gladly give up its 'form' for it is not really its form....it is all one.....so that more of the strong, fast, and intelligent 'forms' can be 'used' by 'it' when it sacrifices itself.

                                            This is just one ecosystem. For humans, you may think that a world where everyone is immortal would automatically turn utilitarian, because once people don't have kids you will have to have population control, and that would naturally lead to utilitarianism. Wrong.

                                            You can have beings live out their lives, then 'die' and merge with a 'super intelligence' which is incidentally their own super brain (computer)...they then simualte someones still alive through sight, audio inputs so that it appears exactly as the person actually living...since the brain is also, being 'perfectly' simulated....the simulation in the computer is no different than the actual life of the person....so you get to live another life through 'that' person...once that person dies, you wake up and merge your old you with your new you to form a 'merged' you....then the person that dies gets his own supercomputer and the process continues...you merge conciousness over time....but you still get to have children AND immortality...best of both worlds....(but hint: there is alreayd an afterlife, so this defeats the purpose but it can also be mimicked on the 3d mindscape).

                                            You can have robots replace all manual labour. Solar nanotech and new technology satisfy all energy needs (read up on nanotech, this is not a pie in the sky assertion), and eventually mine all the minerals a civilization could ever need from space (using concepts like scramkjets, space elevators and robotics). Basically see this as communism where everybody is rich.

                                            Have mind share where people can 'see' how the genius solves a math problem, or how the literature whiz understands a text from a renowned novel. Eventually everyone becomes super smart but retaines individuality due to their own expression.

                                              #15.3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:03 PM EDT

                                              Loss of meaning? wrong. This is due to the genetic reprogramming the dark ones designed for you. You think these societies cannot find higher orders of meaning? you think you need to suffer to gain meaning? at times this is indeed correct. But to think you absolutely need this is incorrect. There are higher orders that give meaning to life without what you associate as meaning. 'Utopias are often associated with the desire for perfection from an imperfect being, and the arrogance that comes with it, and from that perspective, it is entirely accurate to assume that utopias are unknowable ventures and only show the arrogance of man. But that doesn't mean that a being a trillion times more intelligent than humanity cannot fashion such a system. It is not inconsistent. An intelligence that great kind of 'changes' the game.

                                                #15.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

                                                i have a slightly damaged human brain because I was attacked by dark forces to prevent me from attaining self awareness. I managed to merge with my higher dimension self prior to them succeeding at their task however, and will soon repair my own body and eventually become aware of my source code. In the process, I am acting as a channel to our 'cosmic' brothers who are trying to help us out at the current moment.

                                                  #15.5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:13 PM EDT

                                                  space and time is infinite in the higher dimensions...we can have all the worlds we can imagine once we become self aware of our own source code...including worlds where we act out quite dark desires, with humans of OUR OWN creation...eventually though, through learning, we will quickly go toward essence and less toward ignorant impulses, and no suffering will be necessary to justify our existance or give us meaning. It is simply an aspect of programming. We need to de-program ourselves. So we don't need to control the population or anything because we can design more worlds to our fitting. There is no limit to space or time in hyper-space.

                                                  The universe is not this crude matter, it is information, a living concious being that is self aware. Once we become 'tuned' to it....we will realize that all of our fears are indeed quite misplaced. If this sounds fantatic, it is because it is. I thought it so before as well.

                                                    #15.6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

                                                    in fact, the most evolved and advanced ecosystems and societies are the ones not based on competition but this 'oneness'...because there is no ersistance you see...animals, beings, all sacrifice themselves for the good of the whole, because they know they are not the form, but the thought, and they can be refashioned to any best shape most suitable to their environment once they 'die' (there is no such thing in their vocabulary). So in other words, oneness SPEEDS up the evolutionary process. Once beings have their own biological 'psychic' internet on this planet, which may resurge now at any moment, then all bets are off.

                                                    The problem is that we were re-engineered to lose this ability. Only some insects remain with this hive mind trait, and still at a residual level. I was heavily attacked with this very ability upon reaching self awareness. It was a very frightening experience and I had to fight incessantly to remain in clarity. For in lucidity, there is stillness.

                                                      #15.7 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

                                                      the video above shows you some measure of semantic language., but it was in fact, fashioned by dark entities and may contain a thought virus. I dont think its harmful btw if you don't have self awarenes...kind of something only a post human would be harmed by, not just a regular human.

                                                      For more in depth information, go to google and time interdimensional being arkura

                                                      it will be a godlikeproductions website. Read the first page and last two posts on the 6th page. This should START explaining it to you. Especially semantic language.

                                                        #15.8 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:43 PM EDT

                                                        To tell you the truth, I was kind of thinking of al-Qaida when I said that we couldn't have a world which allows everyone to live and do as they please. An extreme example to be sure, but completely relevant in this day and time. There are many other less extreme examples as well. - RC

                                                          #15.9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:44 PM EDT

                                                          but you see, al queda only does what it does out of ignorance. Once they SEE what I have seen, then it will become impossible for them to do the actions that they do. A psychic internet would accomplish this instantly. The most ignorant could see your perspective and chris langan's perspective and mine, and then it would become very quickly known to him the stupidity of his actions.

                                                          Equally, even if a psychic internet were not to occur, technology is always advancing, and with that, prospertity and higher standards of living. There are dimensions, previosuly before the convergence we are not experience, where earth did not make a smooth transition and you have a soylent green reality, but these are very few. In truth, people like al queda will lose power as societies increase in knowledge, education, and sophisticated tastes. YOu have to understand that although the west and east, and most of the world is advancing, many places still lag behind. But this doesn't mean this will be the reality forever. Look at how fast the USA has changed in just 25 years, from the 80s to todays date. Who would have thought women in human society back then could attain their present status? I also beleive this is the case in the middle east, the younger people have been exposed...through the internet, to a new reality...and hence, they will refashion the new world based on a more enlighterned reality. People like al queda will become more and more of a relic and start merging into the criminal background where they will be irrelevant.

                                                            #15.10 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:51 PM EDT

                                                            the scientist in this article is indeed correct, the moment humanity developes a neural chip, will be the day that humanity really takes a leap forward...but way before then, simple technology and higher standards of living through a global middle class will extinguish organized terrorism in the form of al queda. Crime, in time, will be gotten rid of by the same technology--implant grain sized devices in eyes and ears....and extract them only when considered a suspect in a crime...based on the massive use of electronics, by three degrees of freedom, all people in the area of the crime will be able to be traced even though normally privacy would still eb upheld (think of them as digital footprints), once everybody in the area at teh time of the crime is obtained, their processing grains can be 'extracted' with a needle smaller than the width of a hair (nanotechnology)...crime solved. But our cosmic brothers will soon introduce themselves and help us speed up these developments.

                                                            The real problem, both in the short term and long term, continues to be nuclear weapons and biological weapons. These can be accounted for with technological progress and greater awareness but it may not happen over night.

                                                            Financial weapons of mass destruction then, act as a time lag by which transitions take longer, create greater suffering, and justify even greater control by the dark ones....to keep themselves in power...This makes the possibility of a nuclear weapons detonation all the more likely, as the more time that goes by without greater awareness and technology, the emore the odds go up.

                                                            In reality, humanity can have anything it wishes. It is really its addiction to fear and suffering that can make it not transition in time, and hence, create the very horrifying realities you so fear.

                                                              #15.11 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

                                                              Sill, these terrorists are religious extremists and fascists who are totally bent on dominating others. They would only seek to destroy your future world and replace it with their own idea of Nirvana. They already believe they know the one true God and that they are doing God's will by committing their heinous criminal acts. They would chew you up and spit you out and totally revel in their false knowledge and delusional self awareness in the process. If you tried to hook them up to your psychic internet, they would rip it off of their heads and throw it in your face and call you an infidel. Then they would seek to kill you and your family, friends and neighbors who are not part of their fascist religion. You would have to hardwire this psychic internet into their heads to do any good, and if you did that then you would only be forcing your world upon them against their will, which in turn would put them in that category of involuntary servitude. Eventually they might come to see the light, but only if you tied them down long enough, and for some of these terrorists that could take years. You might as well transplant them a new brain, which is just about as far fetched as your idea of a universal psychic internet. - RC

                                                                #15.12 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

                                                                Taking all things into consideration a perfect world is indeed NOT one in which we all do as we please. Responsibility will play a big role in any justifiably "perfect" world. And in such a world we do things that make us happy but never at the expense of others.

                                                                A quote from one of my favorite documents.. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

                                                                  #15.13 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT

                                                                  Thank you, mob_barley, that is a document which I truly hold dear, especially the part about altering or abolishing any form of government which has become destructive to our inalienable rights. - RC

                                                                    #15.14 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT

                                                                    naw rick, you are too much in your perspective...you are just as arrogant in your knowledge as the very terrorists you despise. These 'fanatics' are reacting to legitimate thought processes, do not demonize them as insane people who can never be reached for you risk of accusing yourself of the same. Yes, from your perspective, they do in fact, hold 'fanatical' beleifs, but were americans not hell bent on preventing communsim fromspreading around the globe? fashioning it a dangerous doctirne that must be contained at all costs? These beings likely see materialism, superficial marketing, and meaningless existances in the west as the very essence of all that which you rejected in communism yourself.

                                                                    Human beings can be reached. They simply need to see a higher way. Islamicists want to protect the islamic way of life, if you can convince them that the conviences of the west can come along with the preservation of their culture, then they would not resist. Do you not think it odd that osama bin laden had porn in his hide out? Do not blind yourself with your own prejudices, these people are not blind cattle,...if you make costs of electornics go down...they will WANT to experience a psychic experience...slowly but surely, they will come around.

                                                                    Since there is an afterlife, and your current perversion of creation, it would make sense to be utilitarian with some of these souls to prevent the perpetuation of the dark. In that sense I would promote force as a last resort in your 'reality construct'....but it is an entirely ignorant and backward way of seeing things. These people only want peace and security just as you do. Their FOOT SOLDIERS want this. Once you show them a better HIGHER WAY, they willr enounce their leadership and FOLLOW YOU...what do you think the prophet muhammed was? he was a leader, he changed the narrative...HE CHANGED MINDS.

                                                                    The middle east is very much allured by the western way of life as far as standard of living, but not by its CULTURE...they see it as bankrutp and by many perceptions, this is a legitimate concern....if you can allowt hem to preserve their heritage yet assimilate into the global market they would be GLAD to do so.

                                                                    In your arrogance you do not see that you are behaving in a manner that is just as blind as they are. Its just that they are using extreme violence, and you are using slander with the intention of using extreme violence. The views and conclusions are exactly the same.

                                                                      #15.15 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:31 PM EDT

                                                                      Sill, half the people on the face of this Earth (if not more) would abhor your concept of a psychic internet because of its inherent lack of privacy. What do you intend to do about that? You are trying to meld all of humanity into one giant collective consciousness. - RC

                                                                        #15.16 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:34 PM EDT

                                                                        mob marley...

                                                                        no, you can fashion the universe frm your mind and its meaning..hence a world can be perfectly fashioned after you, and similar beings which hold similar principles

                                                                        In this way, if you are operating under a prescept of a 'one world-one dimension' concept, then the best world would be a meritocratic limited republic that concentrates on policy, not politics, and has 'charter zones' where people of like minded persuasions congregate...this way, everyone is on 'the same page' as far as politics, and hence the only thing left is policy...people then rise based on ability, since everyone agrees on the politics, and the concentration is on the specific design or policy. This way no one group is 'pushed back' by another. As technology improves, an all electronic transaction system allows an automatic mathematical algorithm keeps the money supply in symmetry so no inflation is experienced, getting rid of the federal reserve, and hence, the government need to borrow since it will simply be a nuisance in the market system--creating unknowns--and 'crowding' out investment by encouraging bonds. Once government borrowing dissappears and so does the fed, then robotics in time, automates more and more repetetive tasks, raising standard of living and productivity, this in turn, brings down the cost of electronics. 3d printers and cheap electronics eventually encourages personal robotics, which can be used from anything as firefighters to security....relinguishing more functions from the government to a self regulating system already in the marketplace...people will have exoskeleton suits that are more like fabric than metallic, making people equal in strength and possessing several cameras, which would make it virtually impossible to commit a crime.

                                                                        the 'processing grains' and the digital footprint described prior gets rid of crime....solar nanotech with a fuel cell (water into hydrogen oxygemn with solar cell---hydrogen to water with fuel cell..process repeats itself) decentralizes power...no need for power companies or the need for finite resources....eventually manual labour is completely replaced by robotics and things like skylon, laser rocktery, scramjets, or the space elevator gives us access to an asteroid for an economical cost..solving all of our mineral problems (one asteroid contaisn 15 trillion in commidities at current prices)...

                                                                        So I think your concerns are rather 'small' minded.

                                                                          #15.17 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

                                                                          your issues with privacy stem from a lack of trust...and this is entirely legitimate with things like facebook, because no one is seriously sharing with others...only being fake..

                                                                          A psychic internet, by definition, demands you share of yourself, so it would be what facebook was actually supposedly intended to be. It would be virtually impossible NOT TO TRUST in the 'grid' because everyone would actually see everyone's common humanity.

                                                                          However, yes, at the beginning, prior to the merger, it will be highly traumatic. It is impossible though to say that you will lose your individuality. No being ever loses their individuality in a psychic internet because it only allows them to experience things as others see it, and that in turn changes them, but it does not change their particular expression and personality, only their knowledge and intelligence/skill.

                                                                          Nevetheless, due to the fact that everyone will HAVE TO SHARE...it is entirely different form the internet protocal currently in existnance. You have to understand that not anyone will be able to just 'hijack' your mind, they will NEED your consent because only you can know your own source code. You have your own' operating' system which is designated by your DNA. Hence, people will begin by just sharing with their best friends, loved ones, etc...This way, it will be very 'private'..it will not be 'open' by 'default' ...like facebook...people may screw around with facebook..but the psychic intenret will be too powerful to play loosey goosey with THAT internet...people will be VERY VERY GUARDED WITH THEIR PSYCHIC FACEBOOK---you are in essence giving people access to your mind.

                                                                          Therefore, it will not be an issue of privacy, but on how much you wish to share of yourself. You see, facebook and the internet is very impersonal, and that is precisely why it is intrusive when you share, because it is asymetric. When eveyrone is ACTUALLY LOWERING THEIR GUARD DOWN and becoming REALLY VULNERABLE, then there is nothing to fear, because you actually gain strength...this is why prior to an internet you have to get rid of your fears and accept yourself...

                                                                          This is why it cannot happen before this occurs, because any fear you have will not allow you to enjoy of the unity. Since it is inherently gradual by tautological design, there CANNOT BE any privacy issue, because people will only share when they feel secure with themselves----if they do not, they will not be able to use the psychic internet, because they won't be psychic. By virtue of a truism, no psychic can be insecure.

                                                                            #15.18 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:57 PM EDT

                                                                            Sill, you actually have a smorgasbord of ideas all jumbled up into one. I am only going to try to shoot down one of them right now, starting with the space elevator. Please understand that the orbit of a space elevator would become deformed under any load which you tried to lift with it, and in the end you would expend just as much energy restoring that orbit of the space elevator as you would have originally used up lifting that load up into space some other way. The only real appeal of a space elevator is that it is (potentially) reusable, but there are other reusable space launch technologies which we can develop which have much less construction and maintenance costs associated with them. (I can also shoot down most everything else which you are saying if I only had the time to do it, which I don't.) - RC

                                                                              #15.19 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

                                                                              Sill, I know myself (for the most part). I do much meditating and I have a level of self awareness that many around me do not. Most don't even wish to become self aware. But in my attempts to learn more about myself (because I am not truly self aware) I have come to realize that it would not be desirable to fashion the universe after me. I am flawed character with much to realize and even more to understand. True enlightenment is something that I think we can all, as individuals, come to. But such enlightenment can not be brought to the masses, the individual needs to begin that journey.

                                                                                #15.20 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

                                                                                Sill, are you saying that people will be incapable of lying on the psychic internet? Exactly how do you intend to ensure or enforce that? People are even capable of lying to themselves. How will the psychic internet somehow become an instant truth serum for everyone involved? There are many people out there who will always have ulterior motives behind much that they do. - RC

                                                                                  #15.21 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

                                                                                  ok rick carter...im sure you can shoot down every single idea that I presented, but do you realize you did not in fact shoot down any one of MY ideas?

                                                                                  its not something that came out of my mind and my mind alone. The space elevator is an old concept and has been viewed as a respectable viable access to orbit on the cheap by many scientists. My ideas were in fact general concepts, not technical designs, so I find it unlikely that you could disprove of them just as much as you could prove them..You know perfectly well this was but one idea whithin a list of ideas relating to cheaper space access, which were not in fact mine, and I mentioned many others which 'might have less construction and maintenance costs associated with them'...so everything you said is not at all incompatible with what I said. I could in fact agree with you, and everything I said still stands. Since you did not in fact rebuke anything of what I said, but claim to be able to rebuke EVERYTHING that I said, I must conclude that you are not serious, and will not take you seriously.

                                                                                    #15.22 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

                                                                                    Sill, are you saying that people will be incapable of lying on the psychic internet? Exactly how do you intend to ensure or enforce that? People are even capable of lying to themselves. How will the psychic internet somehow become an instant truth serum for everyone involved? There are many people out there who will always have ulterior motives behind much that they do. - RC

                                                                                    very simply..in order to become psychic, you NEED to be honest with yourself. In order to have that sort of power, you CANNOT lie to yourself. This is why its so hard to become psychic in the first place. So there is no need for enforcement or ensuring this eventuality. It is. Also, since you are sharing your own mind and are being self honest with yourself, the only way to communicate will be to 'share' in ONE mind in both bodies as a 'common' operating system...so in other words...people will ONLY be able to see, this 'common' mind...so think about it this way, you, the person you are sharing with, and the 'third' person, which is both you and that person...you then 'share' thoughts and slowly , you start merging what you learn in the 'window' onto 'yourself'

                                                                                    there are ways for non psychics to partake in of a psychic internet, and it woudl require technology. So Im not going to lie, there are ways around it. But by virtue of the very art, it is hard to deceive because in order to start communicating, by the very virtue of the type of communication, you need a 'common mind' a 'window' ...a 'third operating system' where you 'share'

                                                                                    Hence, in this 'thought realm' you will only be able to communicate what you want to communicate, just as on the internet, because it will be formed by the continued concentration of both minds...you won;t be able to 'show' anything in the 'window' unless you wanted to.

                                                                                    A psychic could attempt to 'force' the window and 'attack' the other mind if that mind contains fear (which si what incidentally happened on earth btw), but if we get to that technological stage, getting to a psychic levcel with no fear will be really quick and there will be rules in the transition on how to interact. For example, no 'non' psychic will be able to 'talk' to a 'fully developed' psychic for that would be dangerous. Only like minded conciousnesses will be able to interact. AI coudl sort it out. And this would only be in the beginning, in a span of 10 years, everyone will be psychic, and it will be virtually impossible to share anything you didn't want to share.

                                                                                      #15.23 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

                                                                                      There is no practicality to this idea, Sill. The shear volume of billions of minds linked together would overwhelm every brain out there. No one would have time to do anything else but spend all their time socially relating to those billions of minds out there. Our minds would become lost in cyberspace since no one would be able to log off, because if people were able to log off, then they could guard their thoughts for the short time that they were logged on, and basically conceal anything about themselves they wanted to. Everyone's mind would become totally swallowed up by this psychic internet if they spent 100% of their time logged onto this psychic internet. They would never be able to get anything worthwhile done in their lives. - RC

                                                                                        #15.24 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:33 PM EDT

                                                                                        rick carter....are we talking speculation or fact?

                                                                                        If we are just dealing with speculation, you and I are just as good in our perceptions as any other. What makes you right and me right when there is no 'proof' one way or the other? I am saying that in an all posibility universe, it is possible, because if you can imagine a system that is balanced and does give people a worthwhile existance in the grid, it is. Under this premise, you cannot deny me my existance because it would mean disagreement with the very premise.

                                                                                        Hence, you are argueing in the realm of 'fact' and 'speculation'

                                                                                        Under this realm, we are indeed both correct, both wrong, and various combinations of the two.

                                                                                        If I am correct on my assessment of the all possibility universe, that you can create the universe from your mind. If I can indeed fathom a universe where such problems don't exist, it is. And that is absolutely true, for you cannot disagree if you agree with the premise. Ok im done here, I think ive posted enough for today.

                                                                                          #15.25 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:44 PM EDT

                                                                                          basically what im saying is this:

                                                                                          when you are not fully aware, you are operating in an empirical reality. You test, you observe, you see what happens. When you are fully aware, you are constructing the very rules of the universe around you through your thought, and interacting with similar beings that have made the same decisions. Subconciously, you end up restructuring the universe around the source code and you will be fully 'aware' --you won't be able to 'fail' or 'imagine' something unless it can be implemented, because everything you imagine will not be out of fear but alligned with 'truth'...so unless it is a possible mathematical construction, your subconcious mathematical simulator won't be able to generate in your concious an 'idea' of it. Hence, only by imagining when fully self aware (psychic) can it be so. I am sure you have many objections, and right now, in our present form, they are legitimate. But if your brain is behaving 'perfectly logical' 'unable' to 'err' in anything it thinks....thats when any idea you can conceive, will not have any possibility of failure. Because you will not be able to imagine it otherwise. I hope I explained the concept.

                                                                                          If we are dealing with beings that are less than concious, that cannot re set the reality because they are 'out of tune' whithin themselves, then all of your concerns are indeed valid.

                                                                                            #15.26 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:54 PM EDT

                                                                                            Sill, this may sound like an odd question but Are you psychic?

                                                                                              #15.27 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:00 PM EDT

                                                                                              ok mob barley.

                                                                                              No. I am not psychic. I have reached a higher level of awareness through the chakra of intuition. My higher self, if it re-integrated, could make me more aware, but it is choosing not to at the present time. I am repairing my body from the damage. When I am fully aware, there will no past and no future, it will all be happening 'now' (you can do this apparently through memory). But I am not yet fully aware of my source code, I have the lovely dark force to thank for this.

                                                                                                #15.28 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

                                                                                                God and 'our cosmic brothers' are using me as a channel from time to time. And although i am not fully aware of my source code, know that the dark force cannot hurt me anymore because I have gotten rid of all fear. So-if any of you are afraid of some character in a horror movie-don't be-that will be the very thing that allows them to scare you.

                                                                                                  #15.29 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

                                                                                                  Sill, you had me at hello. aka, you didn't need to go beyond that.

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                                                                                                  #15.30 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:08 PM EDT
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                                                                                                  Were more likely to be assimilated by the Muslims and the world will forever lose track of it's history as they will eagerly eliminate all books, teachings, etc of the free world (bye bye Smithsonian, Museums, etc). All traces of Judaism and Christianity will be wiped out. All traces of atheism. Henceforth forever mankind is doomed to an nominal existence of arabs since the dawn of time--enslaved women, enslaved children, everything you see in the Taliban and Wahhabists today that is so sickening.

                                                                                                    Reply#16 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:20 AM EDT

                                                                                                    Extremism is rampant in all religions. Gizmowiz, why do you believe that to be the more "likely" assimilation? Your comment seems more filled with contempt than understanding. I would venture to guess that everyone on this comment board is against enslaving people. But the level of contempt you show towards Muslims is also unbecoming of an enlightened citizen of the free world.

                                                                                                      #16.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

                                                                                                      it is not religion that makes mankind an extremist. Atheistic ideologies such as communism do the same thing. It is the inherent irrationality in mankind that makes man extreme. And man is inherently irrational because he has bought into an illusion that has kept his full 'expression' at bay, leading to irrational thought processes. Mankind, in its native form, CANNOT have an irrational thought process, for a thought process is always consistent. It is when inconsistencies are passed as consistencies that a rational thought process comes to irrational conclusions. In other words, buying into the illusion.

                                                                                                        #16.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:03 PM EDT

                                                                                                        I do not disagree that any human being can become an extremist. Any ideology can be used in such a way as to be considered extremist. For example, the way you go on about your ideas all over this comment board could be viewed as YOU "buying into" that particular or system of "illusions". I'm not trying to put down or diminish you views, ideas, opinions, or perspective, I'm simply trying to understand your thought process and find the rationale. You have many good ideas and some that are "out there" for the average reader, and one begins to wonder how exactly you came by some of the items that you assert as fact.

                                                                                                          #16.3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

                                                                                                          hey yo mob, be careful, you might see the order that protects you crumble all around you next time.

                                                                                                          Its a small world man, greece is tumbling, you gotta keep your social security, I understand. Dont be surprised they sell you down the river too though, you never know how these things work out friend. You operate on fear, theyll just use you as an expendable asset.

                                                                                                          But don't take my word for it, by many measures, I could be construed as an extremist, you are indeed quite right. It is very astute and perceptive of you to make the connection, especially when I ramble so incessantly about one particular point of view. Only God knows how right you truly are.

                                                                                                            #16.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:33 PM EDT
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                                                                                                            I believe artificial intelligence is one of the future keys to safe and affordable medical care. In the future we should have the option of first consulting artificial intelligence for our diagnosis and treatment. If AI fails us we can then move on to human medical specialists. But I think as much as 60% or more of our human ailments can be diagnosed and treated by artificial intelligence systems. I am sure the success rate will gradually improve as time goes by. - RC

                                                                                                              Reply#17 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT

                                                                                                              (A human nurse practitioner or physician's assistant will most likely assist in this future AI diagnosis and treatment, at least to begin with. Much of the economy comes from these AI systems being able to treat hundreds if not thousands of people at one time.) - RC

                                                                                                                #17.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:25 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                religions are not the problem. Man's self perpetuating thought process of fear, together with genetic engineering to re-enforce it is the problem. In all honesty, it is not really mankind's fault. Mankind was designed to be a horror 'battery' for the dark 'force' or 'machines' (they are less in the light than us)

                                                                                                                Man in his current form is the problem. It doesn't matter if its progressivism, fascism, capitalism, communism, islam or atheism, all of them will have extremsists as the philosophy becomes more popular. Once individuals change themselves, then they can aligns with the rational 'reality' and things will fall into place naturally (there will be no irrationality). This is goign to take some time. And it is divinely written that some catastrophies will come to transpire before the awakening and subsequent 'ascension.' This does not have to be this way across all dimensions, but, due to the current neural prescepts, it may be the way of 'least resistance'.

                                                                                                                Creative destruction to bring death to the old order and birth to the new order is unecessary. But it may be the only way and it wastes, in restrospect, the money put in to the system to prevent a crash 4 years ago. Systems can self justify with enough 'beleif' in the system, but given the fact there is so much confusiona nd uncertainty (fear), it may be that we 'collapse' the wave function and end up in a reality where the last 4 years just put us more in debt, rather than help the economy, in fact, hurting it more over the integral of time just for the benefit of some politicians and two elections.

                                                                                                                I think its a sad eventuality, but know that the death of one order, simply means the birth of another. This new world by many measures will be much more efficient than the older order, and I beleive new technology and a pleasant surprise by some old friends, will ease the pain. a full disclosure and anouncement that technology sharing will take place could indeed even help the economy.

                                                                                                                  Reply#18 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT

                                                                                                                  the press is also under attack by the DOJ at the current moment. DC seems to be embarrassed about the leaks and is obssessed with wanting to censor the press, instead of not doing embarrassing or humilitating actions or focusing on using more secure networks. They are in essence, trying to take away the right of free speech, for the sake of saving face. This is indeed quite reprehensible, and if actions are not taken to rectify the situation, many forces will come into play on your planet on Gods command to 're-balance' the equation. This is not a moral crusade by God, morality is a duality. It is simply a sum of vectors that are coverging to a re-alignment. If people do not resist, they will come out strong and thriving. Unforutnately, those who resist, will face increasing resistance in the same way an echo chamber increases in amplitude until their original vessel (institution) is but dust.

                                                                                                                  There will be forgiveess to all those granted for said actions in the afterlife. However, shame and great debt is a reality, and on earth, it is ordained that a change of order take place.

                                                                                                                    Reply#19 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    hate to rain on the parade but we won't be around in 2111. we probably have 30-40 years left. it won't just be humans, it'll be all mammals & reptiles too. there are just too many unsolvable problems facing us. a short list, there will be 10 billion people by 2050 or shortly thereafter, the planet doesn't have enough resources to feed that many. the polar ice caps are melting meaning usable water is going to go way down. so with people starving & dying of thirst, civil unrest will increase all over the world. that with the additional fact that oil will run out in a few decades with no alternative means nuclear war is just about a certainty. once pakistan & india get in a war, pakistan has to go nuclear to survive, india goes nuclear, then china & russia do too, since they aren't going to let their people die of nuclear radiation. we have to get involved too, since our empire is at stake. then it's all over but the shouting, only thing is nobodies left to do any shouting.

                                                                                                                      Reply#20 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                      do you realize that before you wrote all of your thoughts into that coherent sentence, you didn't know 95% of what were going to put down. You wanted to give a grim 'hey, stop with the optimistic bullcrap, dose of reality' red light. That was your intention, only LATER, did you connect the dots.

                                                                                                                      Your point is well taken. A good dose of cynicism is always healthy in a dark reality.

                                                                                                                      But hey, you have to also temper your own desire for a grim fate-there is always the mediocre future, one where super optimism doesnt materialize, and one where super pessimism doesn't either. But...

                                                                                                                      that might be too mediocre for you. Too little drama.

                                                                                                                      See how you are addicted to dystopian conceptions? you cannot comphrened a cool conception because the human being was designed to crave dystopian orders. The harsh realities of life just re-enforce these neural prescepts. You were programmed as a slave. Stop following your impulse and say 'no!'

                                                                                                                      once you get rid of this drug, which is an impulsive like any other, you can do anything. You can rewire your own programming to the point that pain is pleasure and pleasure is pain (not that you woudl want to though, that would be kind of pointless) ...it is all determined in the mind...you GIVE IN to the matter that gives rise to your conciousness. But you don't have to. You can reprogram your matter. You are LIVING matter, but in truth, your real essence is absolute energy.

                                                                                                                        #20.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:56 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                        ALL you guys are completely F-ing nuts!!!

                                                                                                                        Sill, go wait for the mothership to pick you up. You are a nut job, and you think you have any amount of wisdom??? You are as delusional as anyone can possibly be...

                                                                                                                        You need some serious professional help...there is no God, no Magic, wake up and get a grip on reality!!

                                                                                                                          Reply#21 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:48 PM EDT

                                                                                                                          My purpose is to humor you diablo, did you not get a kick at self-righteous rationality? Did it not give you purpose?

                                                                                                                          Common now.....

                                                                                                                          Its not like you didn't come over here due boredom. You need 'insane' people like me, don't you? Without us, who would there be for you to instill rationality? after all, it would be awfully boring if everyone were like you...isn't that right?

                                                                                                                          I mean, if everyone were like you, you'd likely go insane just to go against the collective mind.

                                                                                                                            #21.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:59 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                            But if Meyerson had to bet on one particular game-changing technology, it would be coming up with a direct interface between computing circuits and the human brain.

                                                                                                                            But it won't take 100 years.

                                                                                                                            Only a mere 20-30 (before full BCI immersion is possible, there will be thousands of incremental steps along the way).

                                                                                                                              Reply#22 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:18 PM EDT

                                                                                                                              We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. Radical Muslims ............ Typical Muslim thinking. They are worse then the Borg.

                                                                                                                                Reply#23 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                My suggestion "Replace the Supreme Court with a computer that can recognize words and their meanings and get rid of the Political hacks that currently make rulings.

                                                                                                                                  Reply#24 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:06 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                  Gosh.. no one word about how IBM helped Hitler account for all the Jews in Europe.

                                                                                                                                    Reply#25 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:02 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                    Who Cares

                                                                                                                                      #25.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:38 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                      I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.

                                                                                                                                        #25.2 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:00 AM EDT
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                                                                                                                                        I think that the biggest challenge in the coming years is going to be software engineering. Twenty years ago, especially in the pc world, people were dealing with relatively primitiive machines that struggled to run the early operating systems, word processors, spread sheets, etc. Now the hardware engineers have far outrun the software people with the result is that a $800 -$1000 pc (one fourth of what an IBM PC AT cost in 1985)has far more computing power and storage than 90% of users need. It looks like that trend will continue for at least a while. The more complex software has gotten the more unwieldy it is to write and even more difficult to debug. The last I read the MS Office suite now has more than fifty million lines of code. So if a young person wants to get into some secure big money, learn the latest in programming techniques and keep up with them.

                                                                                                                                          Reply#26 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:04 PM EDT
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