How they picked the saddest flick

"The Champ" is often used to elicit sadness in psychology experments.

"The Champ" may not show up on the critics' all-time top-ten lists, but for many scientists, the 1979 flick about a beat-up boxer and his boy is considered the classic tear-jerker — so classic that a clip from the movie serves as the scientific standard for inducing sadness. But how did "The Champ" win its crown? And is it still a contender?

The "saddest movie in the world" has been the focus of Internet buzz ever since last month's Smithsonian.com report, which noted that the film has popped up in a wide variety of studies of depression and grief. For example, "The Champ" played a role in determining that depressed people aren't really more likely to cry than non-depressed people, and that people are more likely to spend money when they're sad.


That's not to say that the experimental subjects were forced to watch the whole 121-minute movie. Psychologists just used just used a 171-second clip in which the boxer (Jon Voight) goes down for the count, turning on the tears from his son (played by 9-year-old Ricky Schroder, in a performance that won him a Golden Globe). The scene was one of more than 250 film clips selected by psychologists James Gross and Robert Levenson on the basis of recommendations from movie critics, video-store employees and film buffs.

During the late '80s and early '90s, the researchers refined their list and ended up showing 78 clips to 494 undergraduates. Gross and Levenson hoped that various movies would get strong thumbs-up for eliciting amusement, or fear, or sadness, or contentment — but they didn't always hit the mark. For example, their top fear-inducing movies, "The Shining" and "Silence of the Lambs," ended up sparking too many other emotions as well.

In contrast, "The Champ" performed like ... well, you know. The movie "produced levels of sadness that were much greater than those for any other emotion," they wrote in their seminal 1995 paper, "Emotion Elicitation Using Films."

Even though that research is now 16 years old, it's been cited more than 300 times in other scientific articles, and Schroder's cry-fest is still being used as a downer in the lab. (For what it's worth, the best film on Gross and Levenson's list for eliciting amusement is the fake-orgasm scene from "When Harry Met Sally.")

The fake-orgasm scene from "When Harry Met Sally" rates high on the amusement scale.

Knowing which movies are reliably amusing or depressing is important for psychology experiments, because movies provide a relatively painless way to elicit a variety of emotions — especially the negative ones. Showing someone a sad film clip won't leave lasting mental scars. When you compare it with some of the other methods that can spark feelings of fear, anxiety or anger, such as drugs or electric shocks, the choice is a no-brainer.

But isn't it time to rerun the experiment with a new set of movies? What seemed sad or funny in the '80s may seem sadly dated or unintentionally funny in 2011. And indeed, clips from other flicks such as "Steel Magnolias" and "John Q." have stood in for "The Champ" in some recent studies of sadness. If you have any suggestions for the saddest movie scene ever (or film clips that are the best for inducing fear, amusement or contentment), feel free to list them in your comments below.

Someday, some scientist just might decide to do a sequel to the sad-movie saga. Will a new top tear-jerker rise up for a new generation?

"I know that others have been working on this (as have we)," Levenson, director of the Institute of Personality and Social Research at the University of California at Berkeley, told me in an email, "but I believe the champ still is 'The Champ.'"

Update for 5:15 p.m. ET Aug. 7: Stanford psychologist Sylvia Kreibig, who has done extensive research on emotion-inducing films, got back to me with this email:

"We have worked with two film clips for inducing sadness in our own research (Kreibig, Wilhelm, Roth, & Gross, 2007, 2011; Kolodyazhniy, Kreibig, Roth, Gross, & Wilhelm, 2011), 'Steel Magnolias' and 'John Q.' On a scale from zero (not at all) to 10 (extremely), these films received an average rating of 6.14, with a standard deviation of 2.13. However, we did not compare these films to 'The Champ.' 'Steel Magnolias' has been used in a number of other experiments for studying sadness and has been found to be effective. A study by Goldin, Hutcherson, Ochsner, Glover, Gabrieli, & Gross (2005) tested the neural bases of sadness using 'The Champ' for inducing sadness, which might be of interest to you.

"Besides the Gross & Levenson 1995 paper, there have been at least three other large-scale research studies on validating film clips for emotion induction, including a target category of sadness:

  • In 1999, Hagemann, Naumann, Maier, Becker, Lürken, & Bartussek found the clip from 'The Champ' to elicit the strongest ratings for sadness among a selection of three sadness-inducing film clips (M=6.64; SD=2.35, on a scale from 0 to 9) and to be highly specific for eliciting the target emotion (90 percent hit rate). These results are based on a German sample, demonstrating that this film clip is effective across national and cultural borders.
  • Hewig, Hagemann, Seifert, Gollwitzer, Naumann, Bartussek (2005) again tested a set of three sadness-inducing film clips (among other emotion-inducing films) and again found 'The Champ' to be very effective in inducing sadness (M = 7.21, SD = 2.07 on a scale from 0 to 9), while not strongly eliciting other emotions (again in a German sample).
  • In a more recent study by a Belgium research team using film clips in French, Schaefer, Nils, Sanchez, Philippot (2009) reported a clip from 'City of Angels' (mean of 2.32 on a scale from 1 to 7) to be the most effective, considering discreteness of elicited feelings and mean feeling self-report, but their selection did not include 'The Champ.'

"You see that different film sets and different scales for rating have been used in these studies. There are ways for mapping different scales onto one common scale in order to compare these values, but then the question still remains whether people would nowadays still rate 'The Champ' clip as the strongest sadness-inducing film clip. 'The Champ' seems to be fairly robust against changes in preferences of cinematographic style, as much has changed in the movie world since the film's shooting in 1979. And psychological distance/immersion might influence a film's effectiveness in inducing the targeted emotion, rather than amusement at watching the film clip or nostalgia for times past ... So emotion induction in the psychology laboratory remains to be a challenging issue!"

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 I think Brian's Song is at the top of saddest, older movies.

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Reply#1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 2:30 AM EDT

TOTALLY agree with you! The first time I saw "Brian's Song", I cried out loud and didn't care who saw or heard me!

    #1.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 8:48 AM EDT

    Imitation of Life.

      #1.2 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

      Dumb and Dumber has the saddest ending of all time...

        #1.3 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT

        or Dumb and Dumber 2... Don't remind me.. :(

          #1.4 - Wed Aug 3, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
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          Madame X with Lana Turner was the saddest movie that I have seen.

            Reply#2 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 2:47 AM EDT
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             The Green Mile when they execute Duncan Clarke

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            Reply#3 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 2:53 AM EDT
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            I'm a 48 year-old guy who steers clear of sentimental, romatic, trageo-dramas, but the one that "got to me" was Ghost, a 1990 romantic tragedy about a couple in love, separated by the mean death of one of them (Patrick Swayze) by a staged mugging orchestrated by his best friend to cover up for a money-laundering deal. Stuck between the living and the hereafter, with the help of a spirit medium (Whoopie Goldberg in one of her best movie roles) he has one last dance with his beloved (Demi Moore), who then gets to see him one more time before he goes into the light (following the requisite tragic ending for his treacherous friend). Both the last dance scene and his final scene got the waterworks going like no other film of its genre (Pixar notwithstanding).

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            Reply#4 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:02 AM EDT

            Braveheart...especially when he sees his wife's ghost at the end...I think I used a whole box of tissues and then couldn't move for an hour after ward...so sad. And now, most recently Toy Story 3...crazy how a few cartoon toys envoked so much emotion...another movie where I even saw men wiping their eyes!!

              Reply#5 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:06 AM EDT

              The final scene of "The Killing Fields," when the Vietnamese journalist struggles over the last mountain ridge and looks down on the Red Cross Hospital and John Lennon's "Imagine" starts playing. Powerful.

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              Reply#6 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:11 AM EDT
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              Without a doubt, Penny Serenade. It's an old Cary Grant movie and I loved it but I'll never watch it again. If you watch it, a box of Kleenex is requisite.

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              Reply#7 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:31 AM EDT

              Good choice

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              #7.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 6:02 AM EDT

              You nailed it! Doesn't take much more than a sappy ad to make me tear up...but Penny Serenade absolutely devastates me!

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              #7.2 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 7:51 AM EDT
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              One of the saddest scenes that comes to mind off the top of my head. . . Hope Floats, when the daughter, Bernice, tries to get in the car to leave with her dad. She kept trying to put her little suitcase and lunchbox in the car and her dad kept taking it out and trying to explain that he needed this time with his new girlfriend and she couldn't come with him. Then he drove off while Bernice screamed "Don't go, take me with you daddy!" and just cried hysterically while Sandra Bullock watched from the porch. Don't know why, I had an incredible childhood, with amazing parents, but it devastates me everytime I see it.

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              Reply#8 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:36 AM EDT

              I definetly agree with you on this one!! I think I cried through this whole movie!! What's sad is that this happens to kids everyday...maybe not this dramatically...but it does happen!!!

                #8.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 8:26 AM EDT
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                Dancer In The Dark with Bjork is hands down the saddest, bleakest film I've ever seen. 21 grams is a close second.

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                Reply#9 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:43 AM EDT

                I second Dancer in the Dark. The juxtaposition of having such tragic and gut-wrenching circumstances happen to someone so selfless and undeserving creates one of the most tear-jerking scenarios I've ever experienced in a film. And I do watch many a film, and I cry all too often in films, but never have I felt so sad watching another movie like that one.

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                #9.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 10:41 AM EDT
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                Terminator 2 when Cyber-Arnold self destructs while giving the thumbs up as he melts in the pool of molten lead - I choke up just thinking about it...

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                Reply#10 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:44 AM EDT

                People laughed at me when I cried at that. Don't they realize how sad it is?!

                  #10.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
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                  Precious of course, even though i feel that it is over the top, Grand Torino, and Slumdog Millionaire

                    Reply#11 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:45 AM EDT

                    "Give my daughter the shot!" in Terms of Endearment. Gets me every time. Of course John Lithgow made it funny when he used the line in "Third Rock from the Sun" about a squirrel at the vet's office.

                      Reply#12 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:46 AM EDT

                      Exactly my thoughts!!! Ghost and When a Man loves a woman as well. Terms of Endearment...I cry the whole time!

                        #12.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT
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                        The Way We Were. The beautiful but gut-wrenching song batters you into submission as Redford and Streisand, hopeless opposites, struggle to stay together, divorce, and then meet again for a fleeting moment years later.

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                        Reply#13 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:55 AM EDT

                        "Testament" where the very last humans slowly and bravely die one by one following nuclear war.

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                        Reply#14 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 3:59 AM EDT

                        Absolutely! Especially when the mother is wrapping her daughter in a shroud: the lighting and voiceover are heart-wrenching effects. Also, "All Mine to Give", about a teenaged boy who has to find families for his brothers and sisters after their parents die.

                          #14.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 8:20 AM EDT

                          Great choice, I saw Testament in the theater when it came out and had no idea at all what it was about, thought it would be a relationship movie or something. The scene when they are watching old home movies with "All my Loving"(?) by the Beatles playing. Saddest moment ever. Not sure i would have thought of that one but now I can't think of anything that tops it.

                            #14.2 - Sat Aug 6, 2011 1:54 AM EDT
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                            "Xiu Xiu- The Sent Down Girl" directed by Joan Chen is the saddest movie you will ever see.

                              Reply#15 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 4:10 AM EDT

                              - Spartacus - The last scene where he is crucified and his wife shows him their baby. Thè saddest scene ever.

                                Reply#16 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 4:36 AM EDT

                                The saddest I have ever seen is "Red Sky At Morning" with Richard Thomas. Even the menin the auduence were leaving the theater with tearsrunning down their faces-AMAZING!

                                  Reply#17 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 5:22 AM EDT

                                  The Road, either the book or the movie.

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                                  Reply#18 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 5:47 AM EDT

                                  Geez fellas...Haven't you ever seen grief inducing climaxes to "The Yearling" and "The Red Pony" or even "The Biscuit Eater"? Yes they involve animals, but the core to these three films sadness is the striving for a child to keep their loving unwanted pets alive against all of the odds facing them. It still makes me cry just thinking about it!!

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                                  Reply#19 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 6:00 AM EDT

                                  How about "Where the Red Fern Grows"? That one still makes me tear up when Old Dan dies then Little Ann dies of a broken heart.

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                                  #19.1 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

                                  I cried for hours holding my pets after I read "Where the Red Fern Grows"

                                    #19.2 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT

                                    By the way, When I write about "The Biscuit Eater", I'm talking about the 1940 version, not the 1972 Disney remake with Buffy and Jody!!!

                                      #19.3 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 9:44 PM EDT
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                                      The Deer Hunter made me not want to see sad movies. I remember leaving the theatre and saying that a person shouldn't feel this way after seeing a movie.

                                      Movies should be entertaining and provide a few moments of escape from the real world and not throw you into depression. I have never watched that movie again. It's a great movie, but it's not for me.

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                                      Reply#20 - Tue Aug 2, 2011 6:03 AM EDT
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