How to contact a starship

This week we talk about possible methods of interstellar communications, black holes eating asteroids, a stratospheric skydive, reaching Lake Vostok, and an ancient ocean on Mars.

Even if you could build a starship, how would you stay in communication with the home base? Maybe our own sun can be used as an amplifier. That's the topic that leads off this week's Space Hangout on Google+, which brings together space writers from Universe Today, Discovery News, the Planetary Society, Astronomy Cast and other online outlets. Check out this week's hourlong webcast, hosted by Universe Today's Fraser Cain, or feel free to jump to the particular topics at these points in time:

Previously on the Weekly Space Hangout:


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Hi Alan

I want to thank you for these weekly videos, they are very nice an I am learning a lot from them.

I have one question for you and your group about using the sun as a amplifier to boost radio signals. I was wondering, would a alien civilization (if they exist) use this same method or configuration to boost their radio signals to communicate with themselves? could we detect them and understand what they were saying? and/or are we already looking for radio signals like this?

Have a good day, Tom And Lyn.

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Reply#1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:21 AM EST

I have one more comment, it saddens me to no end that NASA is thinking of canceling all these missions to Mars and other destinations due to the lack of money :-( if it were not for NASA and the technologies we have gained over the years, we would not be where we are today. It is like we are shooting ourselves in the foot and hurting our own future because of money. I hate it, there must be another way to do this and get it done without all these budget problems standing in our way.

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#1.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:10 AM EST

That might boost the signal's power, but it wouldn't make it faster than the speed of light. The time between asking a question and getting an answer, from here to the nearest star and back, would still be eight years.

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#1.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:42 PM EST

it saddens me to no end that NASA is thinking of canceling all these missions to Mars and other destinations due to the lack of money :-(

Well, are you willing to have your taxes increased to pay for it? More importantly, how many people do you think you could convince to have their taxes increased to pay for it, too? I'm guessing "not very many".

It's difficult enough to persuade people to support additional taxes for to pay for things that directly benefit them, it's much harder to persuade people to pay additional taxes that does little more than satisfy curiosity and keep aerospace engineers employed.

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#1.3 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:18 PM EST
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The Goverment has learned all that "they" wanted to learn. So they cut funding to NASA. It is a shame that we need the russians to get us into space. This is a HUGE step backwards. I've learned so many things from NASA. "They" don't want us to be educated about this stuff. "They" want Sheep & Workers, not American PhD's... "They" would rather import PhD Scientists on Science Visa's to America. Then they go back home & create new cylicon valleys & new "NASA" like programs in other countries...

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Reply#2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:46 PM EST

I wouldn't think the ability to communicate with the home port would be much more important than it was for ancient sailing vessels. Let's try it, and see.

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Reply#3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:48 PM EST

An interstellar civilization would not use EM radiation (in a conventional sense) to communicate; light is too slow for interstellar travel, so it is too slow for interstellar communication. One would imagine if a civilization has sufficiently conquered the speed of light to become truly "interstellar," they would not use a method of communication that is slower than if they just delivered messages in person.

As far as interplanetary exploits go, we already know how to communicate. We do this all the time with our space probes. For ships crewed by humans, it would help to set the mission up so the ship & crew don't have to be constantly babysat by ground control. This way, the light-speed lag time becomes a less crucial element on more distant excursions.

    Reply#4 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:48 AM EST

    Even the sun as an amplifier would be too slow for communication.

    Far fetched idea but possibly with advanced communication beacons placed in the star systems you want to communicate in. The starship send a message to one beacon and that beacon creates a warp or some sort of short cut to the next beacon which could deliver the message back to home base. (Keep in mind I have no science to back this up; it's all speculation.)

      Reply#5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:28 AM EST
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