NBC's Keith Miller discusses the debate over the Shroud of Turin in a 2010 report.
The Shroud of Turin has been seen as many things over the past 620 years, ranging from true burial cloth of the risen Jesus to clever medieval fake, but Cambridge art historian Thomas de Wesselow puts together a 448-page-long case for one of the lesser-known theories in his new book, "The Sign": that the shroud's negative image of a naked, bloodied man was really produced by Jesus' decomposition, and that the stories of his resurrection were inspired by the display of that cloth to his earliest disciples.
"The message really is that the Shroud of Turin is authentic," de Wesselow told me. "This is the only rational way of understanding this image. It can be understood entirely naturalistically. There's no reason to invoke a miracle to explain the image."
De Wesselow acknowledged this could be a hard sell for believers as well as for skeptics. "There are two big things I am arguing against," he admitted.
He's already taking flak from both sides.
"It's breathtakingly astonishing," said Joe Nickell, a senior research fellow at the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry who has written extensively about the shroud. "He's clearly not a doubting Thomas. He's come up with some rather silly ideas, and then as people often do, he's fallen in love with them."
Meanwhile, in a column about the shroud, the Catholic Herald's Francis Phillips basically brushed off de Wesselow's views, saying they were "too eccentric to reproduce here."
Legends and lore for Easter
"The Sign" is the latest example of shroud lore that comes out during the Easter season, just around the time when millions of Christians are dwelling on the story of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. (I'm linking to other examples at the end of this item.) The Shroud of Turin has a clear line of provenance going back to around 1390, but when you try to go further back, you can easily get swept up in tales of the Knights Templar and legendary relics like the Veil of Veronica and the Holy Mandylion.
De Wesselow comes at the story from his background in art history. He's been researching the story of the shroud full-time for the past five years, and has woven together an explanation from scientific findings that seem to support the shroud's authenticity, plus perspectives on the animist beliefs of ancient peoples.
"I've studied images, what they mean and how they affect people," de Wesselow said. "In the old days, people saw images as potentially alive. They had potentially a consciousness. ... That type of thinking was absolutely standard before the modern age. It has nothing to do with an optical illusion, and it has nothing to do with people being stupid."
De Wesselow picks up on the idea that the shroud is actually a "vaporograph," colored by a chemical reaction between the gases exuded by a dead body and the carbohydrate deposits on the surface of Jesus' burial cloth. Blood stains were left on the cloth as well. When the shroud was taken from the body, the ghostly image remained behind — and de Wesselow said Jesus' disciples could have interpreted that image as the spiritual manifestation of their leader.
"The appearances of the risen Jesus were simply viewings of the shroud image," he said.
Here's what de Wesselow thinks happened next: After a series of viewings in the Holy Land, the shroud was and taken to the city of Edessa in modern-day Turkey, where it came to be folded up, framed and venerated by the Byzantine Christians as the Mandylion. The cloth was transferred to Constantinople in the 10th century, and disappeared in the year 1204, only to turn up again in France in the 1300s. The shroud was transferred to Turin in 1578, and it's been there ever since.
Holes in the theory?
What about the biblical references to the risen Jesus conversing with the apostles, or eating fish to prove he was really real, or letting St. Thomas touch his wounds? De Wesselow noted that the first accounts of the crucifixion and resurrection were written down decades after they supposedly occurred. "In that time, there's plenty of room for all the legends to be added to the story. ... These are stories written by sophisticated individuals later on to prove the point that there was a physical resurrection," he said.
Is there any evidence that dead bodies could actually produce the sort of vaporograph that de Wesselow is talking about? "We haven't got anything precisely similar," he acknowledged, "but I don't think that's surprising."
He pointed to a phenomenon known as the Jospice Imprint: In 1981, a cancer patient died at an English hospice and left a partial imprint of his body and face on a mattress cover. "It seems to have been formed from urine pooling around his body," de Wesselow said. That's not what he thinks happened in Jesus' case, but he nevertheless cited the imprint as "another example of a strange image."
De Wesselow totally buys into the evidence provided by the Shroud of Turin Research Project, to the effect that the image is not an artistic forgery but the real imprint of a battered man from centuries ago. That's a huge leap of faith right there. If you accept that, there are only so many types of explanations for the shroud you can come up with. De Wesselow said his explanation addresses the shroud mystery as well as the roots of belief in Jesus' resurrection.
"There are explanations involving a miracle, or that Jesus was spiritually resurrected and appeared in visions to his disciples," de Wesselow told me. "Since the 18th century, scientists have tried to explain the resurrection, and they've basically given up. They've basically forgotten about the whole problem. What I think I can do is provide a fairly coherent explanation which is completely naturalistic. It's a better alternative to the traditional Christian view."
A skeptic speaks
Nickell, however, prefers to stick with his own skeptical view. "I think the resurrection appearances can be seen as pretty much the same kind of thing we have today with apparitional experiences — ghosts, if you will," Nickell said. "We could see ourselves in such a situation with, say, Elvis sightings. You can understand them as experiences that people had but were illusory."
The way Nickell sees it, the biggest argument against de Wesselow's "cloth-as-Jesus" hypothesis comes from the scriptures themselves: There are only vague references to burial cloths in Matthew, Mark and Luke. The gospel of John, meanwhile, refers to Jesus being covered by separate cloths for the face and the body, which is "fatal to the Shroud of Turin," Nickell said.
"The bottom line for me is, if this author were correct, and Jesus' shroud had survived, surely one of the holy evangelists would have made note of it," Nickell said. "If it had been kept and had a remarkable picture of Jesus on it, we would have known about it. And we don't."
So what do you think? Is the shroud a fake, a miracle, or the real relic of a dead man? Register your opinion by clicking on the poll above, and/or leaving a comment below.
More on the Shroud of Turin:
- Was Holy Shroud created in a flash?
- Documentary looks at the face in the Shroud
- 'Jesus-era' cloth casts doubt on Turin Shroud
- Could new test settle Shroud of Turin debate?
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I find it amazing that both believers and non-believers are both so sure that they know what the heck is going on in this world. We have the believers screaming believe or burn in hell and we have the non-believers who are so full of themselves and ego centered that they know how to tell everyone what science has revealed. For the eggheads science is just as much a religion as Christianity. They have taken faith that a study performed by someone else for fact. That requires just as much faith as the Christian. While science has brought us many things. Death is still one area that we will never get. We can not prove or disprove there is a soul or spirit embedded in each individual. Christianity has brought many murders, and so has abortion. So I am just going to stand back and watch all of you know it all people contribute to the insanity of society. Scratch that I am going with Everclear's Santa Monica on this one. I will live beside the ocean and leave you all far behind. Swim out past the breakers and watch the world die. If you have not given up on reading this yet you are either agreeing with me or really feeling some disdain for me. I wish the world the best, but watching the chaos helps me really understand what the Christians call "lost".
How sad to see all the venom spoken here by atheists. I will not join in with the hate, but just affirm that I believe the resurrection of Jesus Christ is real, as revealed in the Bible. I'm unconvinced that the shroud is authentic, although there has been much discussion about errors done on the original carbon dating - as they only tested a small fragment of one corner, that was repaired decades earlier after a fire in the church where it was stored. I trust in the authority of God's Word. If that makes me a fool in other people's eyes .... so be it.
Believe whatever you want, just don't claim it is anything OTHER THAN A BELIEF or OPINION, and not that it is an independently verifiable fact, because it ain't.
My question to you, ryoushi12 is ... why are you so fervently against the belief of people of faith? Why do you even care? You obviously have such strong feelings against faith in Jesus - I just have to wonder why you're so animated about such a subject, if you find it a waste of your time?
Yep richod, why should an atheist care what others believe? The answer is I don't.
I've read the bible numerous times and my "opinion" is that it is true to the best of human's ability to set it to words.
First, and foremost, the dating done on the shroud clearly put it as too new to be Christ's burial cloth. It's nowhere even close to being in the margin of error. Some Jewish sects have always in sisted that man must have a beard, so it's reasonable to assume he had one, but it's not a lock. Any way you look at it, it's not the burial shroud of Jesus. There's the facts, and I've seen no others posted here that truly matter.
fk yr bch, pl wipe my azz...read the "The Varieties of Religious Experience", written over a century ago...or Joseph Campbell, then give me a fk break...!
The Shroud could not have been made from being placed on the face of a man. The reason being is simple. It' is impossible to render a proportionality accurate 2D image from a 3D surface. If you were to try this you would find out that when you flatten the image out, it would be distorted.
Jesus Christ WAS Resurrected on the 3rd day. ALL will discover this one day, hopefully early enough to save their souls.
Oh f...chit, please save my soul....LOL, give me a f....ing break...there is no substantial evidence Jesus ever walked the f...ing Earth, moron...praise be to my f...ing Azz...kiss the sky...woo, hoo...
That's if the Easter Bunny or Santa doesn't save us first!
Jim - obviously it would be impossible to PROVE Jesus lived, but the claim that there is NO substantial evidence seems quite dismissive. Maybe do a little reading on Textual Criticism to judge the reliability of the TEXT of the New Testament (I did not claim it proves it was right, just that we can know what was written). Then check out Jesus and the Eyewitnesses by Bauckham. In it he cites significant new evidence that the books were written at a time when there were people still alive that could vouch for the claims in the books.
the issue is this..the shroud has been dated and it isn't old enough to be the burial cloth of jesus...but it is old enough to be the cloth that of jacques de molay...
Easter .. a big fuss over (at best) two data points.
If you were a clever charlatan way back when, who wanted to produce the impression (literally) of a risen Christ, then applying the right shroud with the right mix of substances to hold onto oozing might get you a very good "ghost" to trick the eyes.
Who knows?
This "shroud" is a Roman Catholic Church created fake. Another one of its fabricated "miracles" promoted while chanting "believe!" God's true miracles are for specific purposes, demonstrating His power in justice. Please see Matthew chapter 28:8-15 in the Bible, where the Roman soldiers were paid to lie and say Jesus' followers came and stole his body. Lies designed to deny Jesus' resurrection began from the begining.
So glad to know somebody's got a lock on God's motives for miracles!
There was no Jesus, there are no miracles...it is 2012, I have not seen any saints, angels or Gods and I have lived over 60 years...the world won't end tomorrow or any time soon, unless an asteroid or comet hits us...no God, no Satan, the be all and the end all, for better or for worse, bend over and kiss your azz! Please get over your 2000 year old wives tale and superstitious crap...? Doi!
Jim - I have lived on earth quite a while as well. Not seen any saints, angels or God either. BUT think miracles happen for me and you every day. Let's explore that thought if you will.
What constitutes a miracle? It must be a supernatural act which affects the natural realm. I hope we can agree on that as a basic definition.
Now I ask you to consider choice (free will) for a moment. What possible mechanism can there be in the natural world to explain choice? Natural law says that at any given time/place/conditions chemical reactions can only flow along one path. There is no possibility that you can mix hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide and there not be a reaction. There is no choice, it happens.
Now in our brains, as complex and convoluted as you want to make them, they still must follow those natural laws. There can be NO outside influence that would direct electrical charges to follow one neural path versus another path. So either we are deceived into thinking we have free will or something outside our physical world must break in when we make a decision and whatever you want to call it - soul, God, a force, cosmic energy - whatever you call it, it meets our definition of miracle. Every time you make a choice, every moment you decide to speak or act as a rational conscious human being, you are demonstrating the interference of something into the natural world.
Now there is the other option - and I recognize you may decide to say - NO there is no free will. We are biological machines and nothing more. That is the logical conclusion that a growing number of honest and sincere scientists/philosophers/thinkers have come to, because it is the only other path. But where does that get you?
In that case no person should be held responsible for any actions they commit, because they had no free will, no ability to decide otherwise. We can not as logical beings then condemn anyone for rape, murder, genocide, pedophilia or any of the other horrors that people commit if they could not prevent themselves from doing those actions. Neither can we praise anyone for the seeming good acts they do. Because it was the only possible outcome of their biology.
We also lose all ability to trust our own logic - since that logic is completely controlled by biology and we cannot say a chemical reaction is true/false or good/evil - only that it happens or does not happen. We also lose all absolute standards of truth and morality. There is no moral standard in a purely mechanical system.
So there is another choice presented and , by some miracle, you get to make it.
He'd rather believe in the millions of chances of 1/too big of a number to type, instead. That seems illogical and the statistics aren't in his favor. Seems like as much of a faith to me.
Faith. It's believing in things you know are not true.
and so, they call it faith because it is based on belief not fact, not experience, not anything, except (oh, no; said Mr. Bill) faith???
then the curtain fell and time passed...
I rather doubt that the shroud is a forgery because it is a "negative" image. Anyone going to that much trouble, surely, would have made it a positive image, photography was not invented for hundreds of years later. Now, who's shroud was it? I'll be surprised if anyone ever knows for sure.
Medieval painters may not have known how to do photo-negatives - but they did know how to do stone-rubbings, which is precisely what the Shroud looks like. Another point: if the Shroud were draped over Chrsit's face and some... energy... placed the image on the Shroud, how come the image only projects forward? The image should be a wrap-around face, not a perfect full frontal with no sides.
But all of this is academic. The Shroud does not match historical depictions of the Shroud or known Roman-Empire Hebrew burial rituals (although it does match medieval burial shrouds, curiously.) The blood turned out to be red pigment. C-14 dating places the Shroud squarely in the 12th or 13th century. As Sherlock Holmes said (I'm paraphrasing),'Once you've eliminated the impossible, the improbable must be true.' Maybe it is improbable that the Shroud was created by an artist; however, it is impossible that the Shroud was woven when claimed. Therefore, it is a fake.
Martin - you sound overly confident in your own wisdom. Several comments you've made however, are inaccurate. The blood on the shroud was verified as actual human blood ... and no pigment of any kind was found. The image was not only a photographic negative, but has 3D properties. The C-14 dating has been questioned - not about it's accuracy, but the sample used was shown to be a portion of the shroud that was repaired much later, after a church fire. And if the shroud was constructed by stone-rubbings (or anything similar), why can't 21st century scientists reproduce it? They've tried and nothing has come even remotely close.
That's a nice story. Fact is, the shroud has been reproduced a number of times. Another fact is, you cannot render an accurate 2D image from a 3D image. It cannot be done.
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See if I understand this correctly. First century AD stories about a ressurection were inspired by a "shroud" that was created hundreds of years after the stories were written.
The Shroud is made from linen which is made from the flax plant. Carbon dating allows us to tell when the flax plant died to make the linen for the shroud. With 95% certainty we can say that the shroud was created between 1260 and 1390 AD. There is also no historical record of the shroud before this time. Fake religious relics were common during the middle ages. Most were unmasked as fakes. This one slipped through until modern forensic science showed it to be just another fake.
It is amazing to me the stuff that is said by people who don't believe what others take on faith. If you can't believe in something, shut up, people who do believe aren't stupid, mislead, or any of the other of the names you call them. People who do believe leave the non believers to their whims, as we know what happens beyond the veil is determined by what we do on this side of the veil. Bashing with these on the internet leads to nothing. Keep your faith, spread the word to those who will listen and don't waste your time on those who won't.
Your message falls on deaf ears. Sorry.
It is remarkable what people will believe on the thinest of evidence. Of course that's how we ended up with all the retards we currently have running our government.
I think it is a great work of art for its time.
Andy Warhol would have approved, and more likely been jealous he didn't do it first.
Oh wait......he didn't do it first problem solved.
Its a miracle masterpiece.
I don't look at the religious point of it, but more the art form of its time.
Later folks.