Higgs-like leak? Video says new particle observed at LHC

Michael Hoch / CERN file

The Compact Muon Solenoid, or CMS, dwarfs workers at the Large Hadron Collider during construction work in 2007. A leader of the CMS' scientific team says in a CERN video that physicists have observed a new particle that may have characteristics consistent with the Higgs boson.


A mistakenly leaked video from Europe's CERN particle-physics center reports that a new subatomic particle has been observed at the Large Hadron Collider, in the range where the long-sought Higgs boson is expected to lurk. The video has now been put into password-protected status, and CERN says viewers shouldn't "take anything for granted" until a much-anticipated seminar on the Higgs boson hunt takes place on Wednesday.

"We've observed a new particle. ... We have quite strong evidence that there's something there," Joe Incandela, spokesperson for the LHC's CMS experiment, said in the video, which was discovered by Science News on CERN's website. "So, to ascertain its properties is still going to take us a little bit of time."


Incandela said the particle has some of the characteristics associated with the Higgs boson, which plays a key role in hypotheses that explain why some subatomic particles have mass while others don't. Finding the Higgs is a key target of the $10 billion LHC project. Its discovery could open the way to new frontiers in physics, such as the study of extra dimensions and supersymmetry.

Consistent with the Higgs
The physicist said that the particle decayed into two photons, in a way consistent with Higgs' behavior. He also said it's 130 times as massive as a proton — which is within the expected mass range for the Higgs.

"This is very significant," said Incandela, a physicist from the University of California at Santa Barbara who was the first U.S. scientist to be elected spokesperson for an LHC experiment. "This is the most massive such particle that exists, if we confirm all of this, which I think we will. ... This is something that may, in the end, be one of the biggest discoveries, or observations, of any new phenomena that we've had in our field in the last 30 or 40 years, going way back to the discovery of quarks."

CMS spokesperson Joe Incandela reports in a CERN video that a new particle has been observed at Europe's Large Hadron Collider.

If the particle's characteristics correspond to the predictions provided by some of the theories on the frontier of physics, "then we're really seeing something very, very closely tied to the  fabric of space and time, something that's really fundamental to the universe, and that represents a major discovery, perhaps as big as the discovery of quarks, perhaps as big as the discovery of antimatter," Incandela said.

Incandela characterized the CMS team's find as "very strong evidence," but he downplayed the use of the word "discovery" — a word that physicists reserve only for the most solid findings, with only one chance out of 3 million that the result is a statistical fluke. Instead, he emphasized the term "observation," which he said means that the particle is "definitely there, and it's very unlikely to go away."

He said the particle could be the kind of Higgs boson that fits perfectly with the existing theory of particle physics, the Standard Model, or it could be an unorthodox type of particle that doesn't fit the model. "If that's the case, then we have something really profound here," he said. "It could be a gateway to the next phase of exploring the deepest parts of the fabric of our universe."

He emphasized that CMS' results were only preliminary, and did not refer to any claims from the ATLAS collaboration, the other team most heavily involved in the search for the Higgs. But he did say he expected the results to be sufficiently confirmed to lead to a scientific publication by the end of July.

"We're very excited," Incandela said.

A tipoff? Or a red herring?
The video, which was dated July 4, appeared to provide a tipoff to the announcement planned for Wednesday. Incandela's comments reflected what the pre-announcement buzz has been: that the CMS and ATLAS teams observed an anomalous particle with the characteristics of the Higgs, with a confidence level close to that required to claim a discovery. 

However, this was just one video interview with one senior researcher, and it's not clear how much the video will reflect what the team leaders will say at the seminar. When the video came to light, outside physicists cautioned that the full story may turn out to be different.

"Really, we need to see ATLAS and CMS data side by side, e.g., are peaks in the same places?" theoretical physicist Robert Garisto, an editor at Physical Review Letters, told me in a Twitter conversation. On the other hand, he said, "I wouldn't bet against the Higgs now."

Physicists at CERN, a nuclear research facility in Switzerland, are expected to announce that they have finally found the Higgs boson, a subatomic particle. Derrick Pitts, chief astronomer at the Franklin Institute, discusses.

CERN spokesman James Gillies struck a similar note of caution. He told me today that the Incandela interview was "one of several videos that we recorded to cover all the bases." CERN tried to keep all of the advance videos password-protected, to guard against premature release, but "one of them became visible for a short period of time ... we don't know why."

The ATLAS and CMS teams, from their spokespersons on down, are trying to abide by Wednesday's embargo on their findings.

"Until the seminar tomorrow, don't take anything for granted," Gillies told me. You can watch CERN's webcast of the particle-physics fireworks beginning at 3 a.m. ET.

Update for 2:30 p.m. ET: Credit for spotting the video on the CERN website goes to Science News' Kate Travis.

Previous episodes in the Higgs hunt:


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Omg, this is so kewl! I can tell, even though I have no idea what they're talking about!

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Reply#1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

It means that good ol' american reasurchers with CERN beat out the pansy lib-commy european reasurchers with their fancy-pants LHC. Yep, and they're gonna anounce it on Idependance Day! USA! USA! USA!

    #1.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

    Thanks, I'm glad a real scientist is here to translate

    • 2 votes
    #1.2 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

    russ, your spelling and "head up your a'ss" mentality comes through nice.

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    #1.3 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:13 PM EDT
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    One thumbs up. Next, We need a Proof. Good lookin' out guys.

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    Reply#2 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

    The autotrophs began to drool.

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    Reply#3 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

    well don't everyone get your tailfeathers regalled...as a "footprint" the analysis assums the level of when we were figuring out Meson particles from a ' bubble trail' (that's like late 60's). I still believe the problem is in unreliable math.

    can't blame em for such fuzzy rational...big titles and such self esteem at stake...

    ...CERN can always name some new 'shards of glass'...that's usually worth money.

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    Reply#4 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

    Ignorant troll.

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    #4.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

    Well, as more experiments are done at CERN, the more possibility if finding new sub-atomic particles beyond the boson. Even if they can prove the existence of this "God particle" then they have to find out how it got there in the first place. Surely it didn't appear from nothing!

      #4.2 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

      my contention is that our approach in analysing high-e data is going in the wrong direction and has been since the early 70's . I feel that our math does not reflect the terrain postulated as the 'Higgs field" from which the postulated Boson is derived as an intelligent but nonetheless 'discursive guess'.

      I would state...terrain is everything and that infinity is, at best, is an adminstrative loop which might evidence the true edge of our terrain.

      My 'lack of PC/direct opinions' are typically accepted as a "troll" to those of thin skin.

        #4.3 - Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

        Since your profile is blank, driftrat, I would be interested to what your qualifications are.

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        #4.4 - Thu Jul 5, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

        I was part of a team in the late 60's in UCLA working on Mu Mesons (bubble trails from a liq Hydrogen chamber). In the 70's, at Berkeley, I studied scholars such as P.C.W.Davies (local) and the such as...Gurdjief. I'm rather an old fart - hence the lack of PC.

          #4.5 - Fri Jul 6, 2012 1:17 AM EDT
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          Some people have no respect. No kudos to this snooper and her editor. Wait for it as they have requested.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#5 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

          This is pretty spectacular news. Imagine a world where the vast majority of the population actually followed and appreciated stories like this instead of how Justin Bieber's hair is currently fluffed.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#6 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

          Hmmm, this particle is 130 times the mass of a proton, and yet it gives mass to said proton. They will have to do some pretty tricky explaining so I can understand how that works.

          In other words, I expected the Higgs Boson to be much smaller in mass than any particle with mass, and that it would simply attach itself to the proton to give it mass. Based upon this revelation, I wonder if the HB creates mass through the field it generates. If so, then since fields have different strengths in different locations, then a proton would have different weights depending upon where it is in the field.

          Or maybe this is one of those weird quantum mechanical things such that the HB creates an underlying uniform field and interacts with protons or whateve as they move through the field, but not with light which doesn't have mass.

          At any rate, I predict determining the properties of the HB will allow us to develop anti-gravity devices of a sort within the next 20 years. If we could shield a proton from the HB, then perhaps that would cause it to be weightless!

          Hmm, I also seem to recall that weightless things move at the speed of light, so if a proton were made weightless, what would happen to it? Maybe this will lead to a different way to create fusion power or a very efficient propulsion system with 100% conversion of mass to energy?

          At any rate, science beats politics any day!!

          • 2 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

          No, shielding a proton from the Higgs field will not make it weightless. The Higgs field, assuming it exists, only imparts a tiny fraction of the proton's mass to the proton. The rest and almost all of the proton's mass comes from its motion energy. Sorry.

          • 1 vote
          #7.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:47 PM EDT
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          Thanks for the video Alan Boyle!

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          Reply#8 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

          Once again I wonder WHY WHY WHY did they cancel a similar program in the USA that was to be in Texas. It only cost a paltry $10 billion and they cut it because it was "too expensive". Well hell, that's only cost of a couple of weeks of those wars in the Middle East. The USA has REALLY SCREWED up it's priorities in wasting money in wars and not in science and infrastructure. No wonder China is kicking our butts in the scientific realm, as well as even India and Russia. We will look upon those wars as the turning point in our history where the USA almost went over the brink into becoming a minor power. But hopefully we are finally seeing the light and putting the brakes on this turning away from science!

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          Reply#9 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

          Moreover, Fermilab was actually one place in the US that was collecting unique data for studying the Higgs in ways the LHC doesn't (by quark decay), but the Tevatron at Fermilab too was shut down.

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          #9.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:48 PM EDT
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          I hate to get political, but our research programs, Nasa, and anything else that has to do with science is on the back burner since the powers that be are controlling the masses by the dumbing down of our citizens,,,such a pity,,,,Let me predict that it will be science that finally proves there is a God,,,,

          Have a happy and healthy 4th everyone!

          • 3 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

          They're still trying to prove there's a God Particle, so I'd hold your horses on that prediction...

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          #10.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

          Don't be afraid to get political .... science is a political matter.

          It infuriates me when people say otherwise. Who the hell do they think funds it, soccer moms?

          As far as your god hypothesis ... I'd say you overreached your mark a bit.

          Science isn't in the lame business of proving or disproving our tiny inventions of grandeur.

          God, if we do find he/she/it, will more than likely be an atheist. I like to think Alpha and Omega has little time for our dogmas and "revelations".

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          #10.2 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

          Who the hell do they think funds it, soccer moms?

          Chad, I coach three soccer teams.

          NOTHING is more political than soccer moms (& dads)!

          (Except the local school board, that is...)

          • 1 vote
          #10.3 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

          Michael

          I commend you brother, I couldn't even fathom dealing with overbearing parents.

          • 3 votes
          #10.4 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

          I used to be a little league umpire.

          That would be taking your life in your hands in this day and age.

          • 2 votes
          #10.5 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

          "As far as your god hypothesis ... I'd say you overreached your mark a bit."

          Chad, cool it down. When they speak of god particle, they are simply describing the elusive nature of the Higgs; hence, a god-like particle.

          • 1 vote
          #10.6 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

          Iamyourthink

          I'm cool, bud ... maybe take my post with the grain of salt is was intended.

          • 2 votes
          #10.7 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

          Chad

          Oh! So slow of me to catch that this late...I must be tired already. Thanks for the note.

          • 1 vote
          #10.8 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 8:20 PM EDT
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          With this being possibly as big as the discovery of quarks 30-40 years ago; what advancements did quarks lead us to? Just trying to find the practical applications of this big discovery.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#11 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

          It might expand our horizons, so we can fit all 7 billion of us in more comfortably

          • 1 vote
          #11.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

          The quarks are related to quantum theories, like QED and QCD, and validating these basic theories using quarks helps us apply the theories to higher subatomic particles as well, which we can then more easily control for many benefits.

          • 2 votes
          #11.2 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:51 PM EDT
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          I hope this news announcement will not go the way how the neutrino speed gets bumped.

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          Reply#12 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

          If it is the Higgs, it is no where near earth shattering. It is interesting like this: some early experiments with deep inelastic scattering indicated that indicated that there were 3 generations of quarks and then in 2009 it was confirmed that it had been observed in 2 separate experiments.

          If it is the lowest energy sparticle, then we are talking about something revolutionary.

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          Reply#13 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

          "Its discovery could open the way to new frontiers in physics, such as the study of extra dimensions and supersymmetry." It's also possible to assume the Higgs function does not involve those things.

          Personally, as a physics and chemistry major with graduate degrees, I can't explain certain behaviors of subatomic particles without assuming extra dimensions or even extra universes exist. But I'm also aware of how well "Occam's Razor" has applied to the advancement of scientific theory.

          Occam's Razor basically says if there are two plausible explanations for something, the simplest one is most likely true. A good example is the complex explanation of wheels traveling on wheels to explain the motion of planets around the earth, but when the Sun was put at the center, the motion became much more simple and was well described by the 3 simple planetary motion laws of Johannes Kepler.

          With subatomic particles, we have to go back to J.J. Thomson and the discovery of the first subatomic particle, the electron. Thomson knew there had to be a position subatomic particle to cancel out the charge but never isolated it. Consequently he developed a "Plum Pudding Model" of the atom where the electrons were small pieces of fruit and the positive part was the pudding - bigger and harder to isolate. But the behavior of electrons in different atoms made Thomson's model assume complex rules which became relatively simplified when Rutherford's famous gold-foil experiment figured out there was mostly empty space in the atom with negative particles around a dense positive center.

          Today, theories for the behavior of subatomic particles is becoming more and more bizarre to explain what appears to be bizarre behavior. For example, if electrons are fired at a wall they can't penetrate except for two small slits in the wall, and there are detectors all along the opposite side of the detector to measure any penetration, the electrons don't pile up where the two openings are alone. They also register at other locations where they can't possibly get through in a wave-like pattern. That leads to the question does a particle always have some wavelike nature to it? We know that light, when stopped, doesn't weigh anything and must be all-wave, no-particle. But when it's moving it bends (diffracts) through transparent objects of different optical density as if it was a particle with width.

          As you get to particles smaller than the electron and approaching the lack of mass of light, you get ever more bizarre bits of behavior.

          But they're only bizarre because we don't understand them. A train whistle will sound as if it has a higher pitch to someone at the station it's approaching than someone on the train. That phenomenon was once a mystery. But ever since Doppler figured out why, it's become an easy calculation for high school physics students and easy to understand that the wavelength is made shorter, therefore the frequency of the waves (pitch) becomes higher.

          Eventually, I think someone's going to figure out a behavior of matter that doesn't involve tiny one or two dimensional strings vibrating in space and in multiple other dimensions. Then, just as when Neils Bohr came up with the first modern explanation of the electron layers around the nucleus of the atom. Not all top physicists like their universes stringy and supersymmetric: on "The Big Bang Theory," Leslie Winkle broke up with Leonard Hoffstetter because she didn't want her children to grow up believing, as Leonard does, that the universe is "stringy."

          • 1 vote
          Reply#14 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

          "Its discovery could open the way to new frontiers in physics, such as the study of extra dimensions and supersymmetry.' It's also possible to assume the Higgs function does not involve those things."

          The _Mick

          It certainly doesn't. The discovery, if later confirmed, merely fills up the missing in the Standard Model. String theory, with all its exotic baggage, will remain just that - a dream theory.

            Reply#15 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

            Are you sure? There are plenty of anomalies discovered already in the process of studying the Higgs that deviate from the standard model. These can be explored further with more data, indeed opening the way to new frontiers.

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            #15.1 - Tue Jul 3, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

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