Mars rover team faces the masses

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Members of the Curiosity rover's mission control team look into the camera for a group portrait at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in advance of a Reddit "Ask Me Anything" chat session.


After facing the "seven minutes of terror" and landing a car-sized rover on Mars, some of the stars of the NASA's Curiosity mission team faced thousands of questioners on Reddit today — and they definitely delivered the geeky goods. Redditors learned which songs were played to "wake up" the Curiosity rover, what operating system it's running, how mission controllers keep up with Mars time, whether they use Macs or PCs, and even which beers they like to swig.

The Q&A session was part of Reddit's popular "Ask Me Anything" series, and today's AMA was exceedingly popular, attracting almost 6,000 questions and comments. Based on the comments, it sounds as if the team is in good humor, more than a week after the white-knuckle landing sequence on the night of Aug. 5. But their diet? Not so great.

"This week a few of us have survived on leftover peanuts and Mars bars from landing night — they don't look so good anymore," the team wrote in one of their group postings.


A dozen scientists and engineers from mission control at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory sat in on the session, including Bobak Ferdowsi ("Mohawk Guy"), Steve Collins ("Hippie NASA Guy"), Jonny Grinblat ("Pre-Celebration Guy") and Steve Sell (a frequent participant in the Curiosity news briefings), plus Veronica McGregor from the Mars Curiosity Twitter "hivemind."

Here are some of the summarized questions and answers from the Reddit session:

What happens if life is detected on on Mars? "Every science hypothesis is vetted among the team, and we would want to make sure we were absolutely certain it was life/fossils/etc. before releasing it to the public," Keri Bean wrote. "But we absolutely would release this information, once we had sufficient evidence and it was agreed upon among the science teams! We follow this procedure for all of our interesting finds."

Did you have nightmares about Curiosity falling? "There was plenty of anxiety leading up to landing and a lot of sleepless nights," Sell wrote. "Despite many team members moving to Mars time schedules, we're all sleeping a lot easier now."

Have you adjusted to the 40-minute difference between a Martian day and an Earth day? "Yes, for those of us working the surface mission. It is sometimes difficult but some of us have different ways of coping. One of the team members actually got his whole family (wife and kids) to switch to Mars time until school starts." Here's a Tumblr website featuring the Mars-time family. When surface operations began for the Spirit and Opportunity rovers in 2004, JPL personnel used custom-made watches to keep track of Mars time, but for Curiosity, most have turned to computer apps such as Mars24, or smartphone apps such as MarsClock and Martian Time (for Android), or Mars Clock and Mars Surface Times (for Apple iOS). 

Does Curiosity get a daily wakeup song? "Yup! She tends to be less cranky with a good wakeup song. Sol 2: 'Good Morning, Good Morning,' Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. Sol 3: 'Good Morning, Good Morning,' from 'Singing in the Rain.' Sol 5: 'The Ride of the Valkyries,' Wagner. R10 Victory Song: Theme from 'Mission Impossible.' Sol 6:  'Got the Time' by Anthrax, and 'Echelon' by 30 Seconds to Mars. Sol 7: The Doors - 'Break on Through,' and George Harrison - 'Got My Mind Set on You.' Sol 8: Theme from Star Wars by John Williams. Sol 9: 'Wake Up, Little Susie' by Simon and Garfunkel. Sol 10: Frank Sinatra, 'Come Fly With Me.'"

Can Curiosity drive at night? Does it have lights? "There are no lights on the rover. It utilizes the night time to recharge the batteries [from its nuclear-powered generator] to drive and explore during the day to take advantage of the daytime." Keri Bean said that Curiosity will take pictures of the night sky once it's fully into its science mission.

The processor you guys used feels ancient to me. How did you program on it? "You are right that the processor does feel ancient," Grinblat wrote. "Our current smartphones are more powerful. The reasoning for this is threefold. First of all, the computer was selected about eight years ago, so we have the latest and greatest space-certified parts that existed then. Second of all, it was the most robust and proven space-grade processor at that time. Thirdly, in order to make a processor radiation-hardened it requires lots of tricks on the silicon that are not conducive to making it fast. Given that, it does not run any GUIs and can just focus on raw programming, and actually gets a lot done. All of the programming is done in C, and our toolchain is very similar to programming on any platform."

Has there been any work to increase the bandwidth between Earth and Mars? "NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (2006) is capable of returning 6 megabits/second to Earth from Mars. This is comparable to Wi-Fi, but at about 100 million miles away! Just don't count on it for playing games with people on other planets, since the round-trip light time delay can be about 30 minutes. (Depends on distance between Earth to Mars, which varies as the two planets circle the sun). Currently, at best, Curiosity can transmit data to MRO at 2 megabits/second. Back on Earth, we are researching new communications technologies like laser communications which we hope to eventually use on deep space missions for even better performance."

Does Curiosity have the capability to leave 96-mile-wide Gale Crater? "There are no plans to leave the crater, but if we wanted to and had all the time in the world, it's possible we'd find a route out. The Spirit rover proved it could climb a 'mountain' within Gusev Crater, and we've done a lot of testing going up inclines with the Curiosity double."

Do you play video games? "Yes, a lot of us do. Scott [McCloskey] claims to have played a good amount [of] WoW ['World of Warcraft'] and Diablo. Rob has played a lot of Mass Effect and entirely too much Super Mario Bros."

How many Macs, how many PCs. "In this room: 12 Mac, 3 PCs," Magdy Bareh wrote. A later comment: "But really, we use everything: Macs, PCs, Linux, etc."

Which operating system does the rover use? VxWorks, which has been used on Mars surface missions since Pathfinder in 1997.

Why doesn't NASA have a rover model available for schools and the public? "Mattel is coming out with a toy in the next month or so, but it will be decidedly low-tech and low-cost," Veronica McGregor wrote. "We figure more companies may jump in to make them now that we've had a successful landing. There's been a plea by several folks for a Lego toy, and people can up-vote that one. ..."

Stephen Pakbaz via Flickr

Stephen Pakbaz, an engineer who worked on the real Curiosity rover at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, created this Lego model of the rover being lowered down by its sky-crane descent stage.

What's your favorite beverage? "I think we all pretty much agree it's beer," one team member wrote. For Rob Zimmerman, it's Stone IPA. For Scott McCloskey, it's Saison Dupont.

Were there any educational or science-oriented TV shows that influenced you while you were growing up? "Hands-down favorite show as kids for most in the room was 'Bill Nye the Science Guy.' A few watched 'Star Trek TNG.' As for current state of science/education programming, people are looking forward to the reboot of 'Cosmos' with Neil deGrasse Tyson. On the other hand, many documentaries on cable TV channels are filled with hype and factual inaccuracies. Caveat emptor."

Favorite sci-fi movies, or movies in general? "Quick poll around the room: Star Wars, Star Trek, Fifth Element, Brazil, Deep Impact, 2001, Love Actually, The Big Lebowski, The Notebook, Tropic Thunder, Holy Grail, Labyrinth, Spaceballs, Office Space, also, Star Wars (eps 4-6 ONLY)."

Favorite planet? "I have to say Mars. :) Although I go storm-chasing a lot, so Earth isn't all that bad," Keri Bean wrote.

Can you guys please do a "Call Me Maybe" parody? "I just landed / And this is crazy / But here's my comm window / So call me maybe."

What's ahead for the entry, descent and landing team? "We're staying together at least part-time for the reconstruction/data analysis effort. After that, it's uncertain right now. The NASA Mars program budget recently took a hit, and the possibility of a 2018 lander looks remote, but those within the Mars community are trying to find a way to keep Mars exploration alive. We also have some technology development efforts going on, such as Low Density Supersonic Decelerator. Let's hope those in charge of the budget realize the importance of space exploration!"

Imgur via Reddit

Systems engineer Rob Zimmerman is not impressed in this group portrait of Curiosity mission team members.

Are you impressed? During the session, one Redditor came up with a "McKayla Is Not Impressed" meme for the Mars team's Twitpic portrait. In this picture, Rob Zimmerman is the one who's not impressed. "OK, I just showed this to the room and we laughed for about 5 minutes. AWESOME!" Ferdowsi wrote.

Twitter provides the best way to keep tabs on what the Mars team is doing. They're generally a chatty bunch. This Twitter list, compiled by Tara Tiger Brown, focuses on the women of the Curiosity mission. (You'll also want to check out Brown's story for Forbes about the "women in the blue shirts who dare mighty things.") Keri Bean maintains her own Twitter list of Mars tweeps, male and female.

More about Mars:


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'Wake Up, Little Susie' by Simon and Garfunkel.

Wake Up is not an S&G song, it's The Everly brothers.

So much for "Rocket Science"

    Reply#1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

    Simon & Garfunkel did a cover of that song. You can see them perform that song starting at the 23:15 point in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63-N7cHFBjI&feature=related

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    #1.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

    Fair enough.

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    #1.2 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

    Putting a car-sized rover on Mars, millions of miles away, at a cost of billions of dollars to the American tax payer just doesn't make sense when one consider the state of our economy. It would have made much more sense to invest in a car-sized rover that is capable of descending one mile into the ocean to cap the next oil spill.

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    #1.3 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

    TomTom-72

    Would you prefer that Russia and China get there first?

    $2.5 billion out of a $16 trillion deficit? Less than 1/6000th. .015625 percent.

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    #1.4 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

    Plus that $2.5 billion has been spread out over 8 years.

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    #1.5 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

    Well TomTom, your new, improved blowout preventer is available here and a bunch of other places: http://www.blowout-preventers.com/. Preventing oil spills is not usually news and doesn't get publicised like it should.

    Just because a spacecraft has left Earth does not mean the money funding that spacecraft has left the economy. In fact, the spending stimulates the economy just the same as if it was spent on any other program.

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    #1.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:17 AM EDT
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    Yeah,yeah,yeah....enough with the chit chat OK, now show us some pics and video already.

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    Reply#2 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

    New pics coming right up

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    #2.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

    You'll forgive us, Alan, if we don't hold our breath... right?

    Thanks :)

      #2.2 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

      Woops! My bad! New picture from MSL Curiosity! LOL!!!!!!!

      http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00010/mhli/0010MH0000003000E1_DXXX.jpg

        #2.3 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
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        These guys are so cool!

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        Reply#3 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

        These guys are such geeks. But cool geeks. I salute them.

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        #3.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:24 PM EDT
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        I wonder if they watched Bill Nye the Science Guy when he was on Almost Live in Seattle. Since Bobak went to UW, I'm guessing yes.

          Reply#4 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

          There are just so many unanswered questions about Mars. We may have an excellent opportunity to answer some of these questions now. Like...why is the Martian's skin color green and why do Martians speak in those high squeaky voices?

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          Reply#5 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

          They play WORLD of WARCRAFT?

          This mission is DOOMED!

          EVERQUEST FOREVER!!!

            Reply#6 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:32 PM EDT

            Curiosity mission control team... regarding life... why spend 2.5 billion to look for fossilized remnants on a frozen world... when Madagascar barely has 2 nickels to rub together to save lemur habitat?

            With those billions... lots of life and endangered ecosystems could be ID'd, protected and preserved here on planet earth.

            Just a thought. It's a matter of priorities... and Mars isn't going anywhere.

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            Reply#7 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:40 AM EDT

            Another possibility is to raise taxes just slightly on the wealthiest of us (or perhaps just request politely that they chip in a little more) so we can afford both.

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            #7.1 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:35 AM EDT

            Yeah, exploration, science and discovery are so worthless. It's time to cut funding to this kind of crap. Why are we spending money on future development and research when we should be giving our cash away to other people around the world who may "deserve our hard earned taxes" more. The eco-system, weather and geological information we can learn from mars is worthless. Finding life in space is worthless. Studying math and science for the sake of curiosity is worthless. We should only research those technologies which are popular with the population. No one gives a crap if you've mapped out human DNA and found the cure for cancer. No one cares if you find bacterial life on mars which may hold the key to some cure or alien process which we can use to repair our own ecosystem. Pursuit of curiosity is stupid. We should stick to feeding the masses and monitoring the environment, new scientific discoveries in other areas could never cross over and help with eco system and agricultural issues.

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            #7.2 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

            you are not finding squat

              #7.3 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

              And if Madagascar wants to give up sovereignty and become a US state, then I'll support that. Then we can go in there and protect their endangered species. Otherwise, it's not our responsibility or even our right to fix things in their country.

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              #7.4 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

              I believe that if you search the NASA Spin off Database you will find NASA has developed technology for use in habitat identification and restoration. Looks like Madagascar does not consider lemurs to be important enough.

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              #7.5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:28 AM EDT
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              Comment author avatarnick werleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              there are no BIO,s its been a wasted of 2 billion

              and that violates my religious principles@

                Reply#8 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:06 AM EDT

                nick: "its been a wasted of 2 billion" A little wasted yourself tonight? No matter. Good news: all the money was spent here on Earth and is circulating throughout our economy.

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                #8.1 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:39 AM EDT

                look at qwerty kbd MORON,

                there was no capital formation by 2.5 billion spent,

                learn economics Space Geek

                  #8.2 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:05 PM EDT
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                  Here is my ode to Curiosity....

                  Theme/song from Beatles Baby Your a Rich Man

                  Lets call it Curiosity Your a Rich Rover:

                  How does it feel to be,
                  One of the beautiful Rovers?
                  Now that you know who you are,
                  What do you want to be?
                  And have traveled so far?
                  Far as the eye can see.
                  How does it feel to be,
                  One of the beautiful rovers?
                  How often have you been there?
                  Often enough to know.
                  What did you see, when you were there?
                  Everything in the big show,
                  Curiosity you're a rich Rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich Rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich Rover too.
                  You keep all your findings in a big instrument for a science breakthrough,
                  What a thing to do.
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover too.
                  How does it feel to be,
                  One of the beautiful rovers?
                  Tune to laser what will you see?
                  Happy to be that way
                  Now that you've found another key,
                  What are you going to play?
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover,
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover too.
                  You keep all your findings in a big instrument for a science breakthrough
                  What a thing you do.
                  Curiosity you're a rich rover...

                  Thanks guys and gals from NASA!

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                  Reply#9 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:25 AM EDT

                  It wasn't but a few weeks ago scientists were saying the younger generation isn't getting the right education and the field of want-a-be scientists is shrinking. Whose fault is it really? Of course if you want to work for minimum wage you can be who ever you want, isn't that right Mr. Romney? Then again I heard him say just this morning go to school even if you have to borrow money from your parents. That's really not funny because my parents have just about lost everything and if things don't change for them they may be moving in with me and my family.

                    Reply#10 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:15 AM EDT

                    Very sorry to hear that Confussed. Ten years ago I was considered "upper middle class", since that time I've lost my job, then I got a job that paid less, then I lost my house, and now I'm entering my 50's much poorer than where I was when I entered my 40's. Now my kids are college age, and the assistance they need from me right now has diminished greatly

                    The middle class is shrinking in the country, and neither Romney or Obama are going to set things straight. Both parties have a constituency that they absolutely pander to: Their corporate lobbyists and the American citizens known as Corporate Personhoods. Our voices are just a tiny whisper compared to the demands of their primary constituencies.

                    I was a Reagan Republican, I grew to somewhat like Clinton, I was simply okay with having Obama after watching the trainwreck of George W.; but now...?

                    I think I'm going completely independent and voting for Jill Stein (Green Party) for President. She at least recognizes the HUGE amounts of money we waste on our Military-Industrial complex and she states she'll reduce the military budget by 30% (not enough, but its a start).

                    I encourage everyone to throw out the two parties that have become so heavily compromised that they no longer even attempt to try and represent us anymore.

                      #10.1 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

                      Anjisan, ideally, the entire human race could do away with all military spending by fully examining our motives for warring - I mean, we can put a man on the Moon and a rover on Mars; we should be able to comprehend the psychic roots of our aggression without having to institutionalize mass violence and killing, right? But realistically, authoritarian government, warfare and religion are so deeply rooted in the mass psyche that the best we can hope for is to try to ameliorate the worst results they produce. I would encourage you to vote for Obama, because at least he represents racial equality and anti-bigotry, which would seem to be progressive steps toward that high ideal. At least you're not planning to vote for Romney, who seems to represent little except monetary wealth, which is not really a very inspiring ideal.

                        #10.2 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:37 PM EDT
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                        nick werle, Greg_S, etc. want to keep this country in the dark ages.

                        Hopefully we'll perfect space travel so that we can ship these anti-science morons to mercury. I really wish some of today's Americans weren't so short-sighted and stupid. No seriously, I do. Sorry to offend, but when you can sit there with a straight face and say that this is a "waste of taxpayer dollars" you deserve everything that people think of you.

                        Sometimes I feel like this country isn't worth defending. And I'm not talking about the military. Even if its a minority of Americans spouting such misinformed nonsense, this country shouldn't be producing those people in the first place.

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                        Reply#11 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                        Dear Friends:

                        What toy does the Mars rover look like? Christmas is coming! Future Scientists, Engineers, Mathematicians, Writers, Instructors, Parents, Adults!

                        We all like toys and Mars rover. Fetch it for stocking stuffers and others for all the little girls and boys of all ages to one hundred and ninety Two.

                        Hurry they won't last! And books to go with them. Oh and the story of Saint Nicholas. He is real. He lived in Germany. Find the story! It won't last long either for the Holidays. Why his gifts and generocity all faiths can participate in the story of giving.

                        Amen.

                          Reply#12 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                          Is the woman in the middle with the MSL shirt and glasses single?

                            Reply#13 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                            Since this $2.5 billion roller buggy landed, we've seen reruns of reruns of the seven minutes of terror, picture after picture of some kid with a funny haircut and heard over and over and over how it will eventually move someday and give new and improved pictures...

                            ... but, to date, the reruns are boring, the haircut kid is old news and the images are reworks of reworks of those since Sol 3.

                            Let's be honest here... this is a welfare rover, right? It costs the taxpayer billions, it doesn't work and just sits in one spot day after day.

                            Yup. That about tags it.

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