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  • 18
    Mar
    2011
    4:07pm, EDT

    Robots en route to Japan

    iRobot

    The 510 Packbot is one of two models iRobot is sending to Japan to help with the disasters following the earthquake and tsunami. The Japan Ground Self Defense Forces - Special Ops requested the robots, according to iRobot.

    By John Roach, Contributing Writer, NBC News

    Four robots are en route to Japan with capabilities that could be used on search and rescue missions as well as try to define the environment close to the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plants, iRobot announced today.

    The Bedford, Mass., based company said the Japan Ground Self Defense Forces — Special Ops — asked for the robots, two each of the 510 PackBot and 710 Warrior models.

    "We don't know yet where, how, and when they'll be used," Laura Jakosky, a spokeswoman for the company, told me today in an Email. Both models are ground robots and were used in the rescue and recovery mission at Ground Zero following the 9/11, she added.


    The robots were put on a plane Friday for Japan and plans call for iRobot personnel to train Japanese forces on how to operate the robots from a protected vehicle.

    Potential uses for the 510 PackBot include HazMat detection and video surveillance. The 710 Warrior is capable of carrying heavy payloads and traveling over rough terrain, even climbing stairs. It could, for example, haul a water hose close to the reactors, akin to a robotic firefighter, Jakosky noted.

    The ultimate mission of the robots will be determined by the Japan Ground Self Defense Forces.

    Among first of many?
    Red Whittaker, one of the world's leading robotics experts, at the Carnegie Mellon Robotics Institute, said these robots are among the early deployments in what will be weeks, months, and years of robotic "work systems" being deployed in Japan.

    "The first use of robots in an incident response is usually for viewing and evaluating and sometimes small robots are useful for that," he told me today.

    As time progresses, work systems will be deployed that are designed for specific tasks such as carrying loads, pumping water and cleaning up hazardous waste.

    One could imagine, for example, the need for a crane-like device that can spray water from a high elevation into the reactor pools, or a smaller robot able to drill into the concrete walls surrounding the pools so that analysis can be performed. Bulldozer like robots could help with cleanup operations.

    "These are campaigns, not skirmishes, and typically new tools are brought to bear as the challenges arise and those challenges are very different over time," Whittaker said.

    The early machines, such as the iRobot models on their way to Japan, will do characterization (definition) work. Others will be called in for specific tasks. "My sense is we will see a world class application and utilization of such machines where they matter and when they matter," he said.

    More on search and rescue robots:

    • Robots to the rescue in Japan?
    • A robot cut out for mine rescue work
    • Snake robots could disable explosives
    • Shape-shifting plane to aid maritime rescues
    • No obstacle too high for climbing snakebots

    John Roach is a contributing writer for msnbc.com. Connect with the Cosmic Log community by hitting the "like" button on the Cosmic Log Facebook page or following msnbc.com's science editor, Alan Boyle, on Twitter (@b0yle).

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    The Japanese had to call someone else for robots?!?!? They must indeed be desperate.

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  • 18
    Mar
    2011
    2:14pm, EDT
    from:NBC News

    Could U.S. nuclear plants withstand a tsunami?

    Operators of California's two nuclear plants say they are well-prepared for a possible tsunami strike. Some experts, however, are calling for new risk assessments that take into account the deadly earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis in Japan. Check out the full story from Discovery News' Eric Niiler.

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    AlCv62 .... you said it all, an 11 earthquake is a catastrophic even, just thought over the one that hit the new Madrid fault x 1000 (the one that made the Mississippi flow backwards for awhile), besides the power plant did what it was supposed to do, they where counting on an 20 feet wall of water …

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  • 15
    Mar
    2011
    10:44pm, EDT

    If there's a meltdown, then what?

    By Alan Boyle, Science Editor, NBC News

    If the meltdown at Japan's stricken nuclear plant goes total, experts don't expect to see a "China syndrome" scenario or a Chernobyl-style conflagration. But the situation would be worse than it is now — which is why Japanese authorities have been working so hard to stabilize the situation at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex. Emergency operations were briefly suspended on Wednesday, Japan time, due to a spike in radiation levels.

    Just how much worse could things get? That's a matter of debate.

    Princeton nuclear physicist Frank von Hippel suggests that we're already seeing the major effects of the meltdown, in the form of periodic releases of radioactivity from the reactors as well as from a fire-damaged storage facility for nuclear fuel rods.


    "In a sense, the worst has happened already, with the fuel releasing much of its volatile radionuclides," von Hippel said today during an msnbc.com chat about the nuclear crisis. "The major danger from a meltdown would be a low-probability steam explosion if the molten core fell into a pool of water."

    On the other end of the spectrum, a big explosion is exactly what Masashi Goto, a former nuclear design engineer at Toshiba, is worried about. During a Tokyo news briefing presented by the Citizen's Nuclear Information Center, which is generally critical of nuclear power, Goto said the molten core could spark a steam explosion ... or another hydrogen gas explosion like the ones that have rocked the reactor complex over the past few days. He said a full core meltdown could also set off a fresh nuclear chain reaction, much like the one that occurred in 1999 at Japan's Tokai processing plant.

    "It could trigger the resumption of criticality," Goto said.

    Experts on nuclear power say that the seriousness of the Fukushima Dai-ichi currently rates somewhere between Pennsylvania's 1979 Three Mile Island incident, in which the reactor's core melted down halfway but was kept contained within the facility; and the 1986 Chernobyl incident in Ukraine, in which a raging, uncontained fire spread radioactive contamination throughout Europe.

    Japanese authorities estimate that 70 percent of the fuel rods are damaged at the complex's reactor No. 1, with 33 percent damage to the rods in reactor No. 2. The storage pool for fuel rods at reactor No. 4 has weathered two fires and an explosion, which apparently led to the release of radioactive plumes through gaps in the reactor building's walls. Meanwhile, water levels are reportedly dropping in other storage pools.

    Water is the key
    To head off further damage, Tokyo Electric Power Co. is talking about adding water and boric acid into the reactors and the storage pools, from helicopters as well as fire trucks. The water replaces the liquid that's boiling off because of the fuel rods' residual radioactive decay heat, while the boric acid helps slow down the nuclear fission rate.

    Keeping the fuel rods covered with water is the key to heading off the worst-case scenario, said Elmer Lewis, professor emeritus of mechanical engineering at Northwestern University. "If you can keep any liquid at all in contact with them, they would probably not melt," he told me. Of course, you still have the problem of dealing with the radioactive steam released in the reaction. That's a problem the Japanese have become all too familiar with over the past few days.

    "You don't want to be downwind, let's put it that way," said Norman McCormick, a professor emeritus of mechanical engineering at the University of Washington who is co-author of the soon-to-be-published book "Risk and Safety Analysis of Nuclear Systems." McCormick added, however, that the radiation risk would drop off sharply with distance.

    "Dilution is the solution," he told me. "It's not a desirable thing, but it's the least undesirable thing."

    Even under the best-case scenario, the messy cooldown process would have to continue for weeks. "It's going to be a long endgame, because they are going to have to keep cooling in there, and they will have to rig up something for the longer term," Lewis told Reuters.

    The worst-case scenario
    So what happens under the worst-case scenario? Let's assume for just a moment that fuel rods become exposed and go into full meltdown.

    The fuel rods are actually long, hollow poles of zirconium metal, filled with pellets of uranium oxide fuel. That zirconium cladding is the first thing to go, melting at a temperature of about 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit (1,200 degrees Celsius). The uranium pellets' melting temperature is significantly higher — about 5,000 degrees F (2,800 degrees C). If the fuel pellets melt down, that creates a molten lava-like mess known as "corium."

    isotype.com / Reuters / Source: Deutsches Atomforum

    Experts say it's possible for the molten core material to trap water in such a way to create a steam explosion, causing radioactive material to blast outward. That would be a bad thing, but as von Hippel noted, that's seen as a low-probability event. There's an even lower probability for a "China Syndrome" scenario, in which molten core material finds its way out of a reactor's container vessel and is released into the environment (supposedly falling all the way down to China, or in this case, New York). The reactors' containment shells are designed to catch the molten core material in a basin of steel, concrete and graphite.

    But what if the containment shells have somehow become cracked or otherwise compromised, due to Japan's earthquake or explosions? "There's always been a debate within the technical community over whether [nuclear core material] can melt and mix with the soil," Lewis told me. "It's hard to model something that's never happened."

    Physicist David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector who is now president of the Institute for Science and International Security, noted today on MSNBC that there's been a "slow bleeding" of radioactive pollution into the environment. The worst-case scenario, he said, would result in a release of radioactivity on a level that's "probably not as much as Chernobyl, but nevertheless a very significant release."

    In the most extreme case, the Japanese might have to consider following the Chernobyl example and "dump sand or concrete on the open wound," Nathan Hultman, an energy policy expert at the University of Maryland, told me.

    "We don't have a lot of experience with this," Hultman said.

    The best-case and the worst-case scenario both end with years of cleanup and reconstruction, not only due to the nuclear crisis, but also due to the wider challenge of dealing with the other effects of the earthquake and tsunami. How will Japan cope? How will the wider world respond? Feel free to weigh in with your comments below.

    More on Japan's crisis:

    • Q&A: Clearing up nuclear questions
    • Nuclear worries focus on spent fuel pool
    • Robots to the rescue in Japan? Not yet
    • Cosmic Log archive on the Japan crisis
    • Special report on the disaster in Japan

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    Our world has just changed as we know it. One of the best allies we have in the US has just suffered the sort of catastrophe we didnt wish on our worst enemies. We need to support the Japanese as far as humanly possible. If a people can rebound from this tragedy it will be the Japanese. If they can …

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  • 15
    Mar
    2011
    5:11pm, EDT

    Robots to the rescue in Japan?

    The Active Scope Camera robot is one a ground-based search and rescue robot that has been ruled out for use in search and rescue efforts following the earthquake in Japan.

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    By John Roach, Contributing Writer, NBC News

    As the search for survivors and grim recovery of bodies continues following the devastating one-two punch of the 9.0 magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami in Japan, researchers are weighing what types of robots could be most helpful.

    There are ground-based robots, for example, designed to climb up and down piles of rubble and slither into otherwise inaccessible cracks to look for survivors. Other robots are designed to work underwater, looking for survivors in cars that fell off bridges and to check the integrity of infrastructure.

    Robin Murphy, director of the Center for Robot-Assisted Search and Rescue (CRASAR) at Texas A&M University, in College Station, and one of the world's top experts in rescue robotics, told me today that "ground robots are not going to be much use in this disaster."


    That's mostly because ground robots are designed to go places where dogs and people can't — such as into piles of rubble more than 20 feet high. Those types of piles are created when parking garages and skyscrapers collapse.

    "A lot of those types of structures didn't collapse," Murphy said. "And if they were down by the tsunami, they got completely washed away."

    Instead, most of the rubble piles are shallow enough for people and dogs to search, who are more manageable and work faster than current rescue robots such as the Active Scope Camera, a snakelike robot with a camera for a head that can slither into tight spaces and check for survivors.

    Earlier reports suggested that the robotic snake would be released in hard-hit Sendai by a team from Tohuku University led by Satoshi Tadokoro, but that idea "got ruled out very quickly," Murphy said.

    The same goes for a second ground robot called Quince, which has tanklike tracks on its body and wheels that can roll over rubble and climb stairs.

    Murphy's organization, however, is seeing a need for robots that can maneuver underwater and use sonar and acoustic cameras to search for survivors and check the integrity of vital infrastructure.

    "And that makes sense when you think of all the water that's there and you’ve got ports, bridges, pipelines and other critical infrastructure underwater," she said. These underwater robots are small and attached to a tether so they can't be swept away in currents.

    The Center for Robot-Assisted Search and Rescue has offered its assistance to Japan is on standby awaiting an official invitation to join the effort. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers may already be using one robot, Seabotix, which they successfully used to investigate bridge a seawall damage following the 2010 Haiti earthquake.

    "What we would be doing is bringing in a different kind, with a different type of expertise to complement what they are doing," she said.

    More on search and rescue robots:

    • A robot cut out for mine rescue work
    • Snake robots could disable explosives
    • Shape-shifting plane to aid maritime rescues
    • No obstacle too high for climbing snakebots

    John Roach is a contributing writer for msnbc.com. Connect with the Cosmic Log community by hitting the "like" button on the Cosmic Log Facebook page or following msnbc.com's science editor, Alan Boyle, on Twitter (@b0yle).

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    I also thought they should use robots to help deal with the nuclear reactor disaster. Send them in where humans can't go.

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  • 14
    Mar
    2011
    6:21pm, EDT

    Clearing up nuclear questions

    NBC's Robert Bazell on the nuclear crisis.
    By Alan Boyle, Science Editor, NBC News

    Last updated 11:25 p.m. ET:

    Three days after a catastrophic earthquake and tsunami hit Japan, the situation at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex has turned into the biggest uncertainty of the crisis. Recovering from the seismic event will take tens of billions of dollars and years of work — but if the nuclear situation goes the wrong way, that would add dramatically to the disaster's cost.

    How did all this happen, and how could it end? Different folks have different answers, depending on how they feel about nuclear power. Here's a roundup of the best answers I've been able to put together — accompanied by an invitation to add your own sources and perspectives as comments below:


    Has there been a nuclear meltdown?

    Authorities say partial meltdowns have probably occurred at three of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plants.

    To understand what a "partial meltdown" means, we need to discuss how the reactors are constructed. Under normal conditions, the plants produce power by sustaining a controlled nuclear reaction inside a pressure vessel. Chain reactions in the nuclear core's uranium-filled fuel rods heat up water, generating steam that turns turbines to generate electricity. That steam is circulated through a cooling system and returned to the pressure vessel as water to keep the cycle going. The uranium oxide fuel is contained inside sheaths of zirconium metal that can withstand temperatures of 2,200 degrees Fahrenheit (1,200 degrees Celsius).

    Control rods can be inserted between the fuel rods to shut down the main chain reaction in the uranium. But the water-circulating cooling system is needed as well to bring the temperature down while the radioactive decay subsides.

    isotype.com / Reuters / Source: Deutsches Atomforum

    The problem is that the power for the cooling system was cut off when the earthquake hit. Then the backup diesel generators were knocked out of commission by the tsunami. Backup batteries could keep the cooling system going for only about eight hours more. The plant's operator tried to bring in mobile generators to restore power, but the connections reportedly didn't match up.

    Meanwhile, residual heat from radioactive decay continued to build up, and water continued to turn to steam. Eventually, the fuel rods became exposed. The temperatures apparently reached the melting point for the fuel rods' zirconium sheaths. That can result in uranium oxide fuel falling to the bottom of the pressure vessel — which is what some experts mean when they talk about a partial meltdown. Other experts, however, would reserve that term for a situation in which the nuclear fuel makes its way out of the pressure vessel but stays within a steel-and-concrete containment shell that surrounds the reactor. 

    Is that why radioactive material escaped?

    At the three Fukushima Dai-ichi reactors that are apparently experiencing partial meltdowns, the nuclear fuel is still contained within the pressure vessel. The radioactive material is not coming from the core itself. At reactors No. 1 and No. 3, the material is contained in steam that has been released from the vessels. Plant operators opened the steam valves to reduce the risk of a high-pressure explosion inside the vessels — in effect, letting off steam to keep the lid from blowing off a pressure cooker. The steam contains radioactive cesium-137 and iodine-131, which are byproducts of the uranium reaction. The authorities said the radioactivity in that steam is still below regulatory limits and should not pose any health risk.

    Despite those reassurances, authorities ordered an evacuation of the area within a 12-mile (20-kilometer) radius of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant, and have distributed stable iodine to evacuation centers as a precaution. If people are exposed to significant amounts of radioactive debris, taking doses of iodine can prevent the uptake of radioactive iodine and reduce the risk of thyroid cancer. 

    Right now the radioactive plume is blowing out to sea, which means it's not wafting over Japanese population centers. It is wafting over the Pacific, however, and the U.S. Navy found that air crew members from the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan were exposed to low-level contamination. The Navy says the crew members were decontaminated with soap and water, and all U.S. ships have been moved out of the downwind direction. Apparently, no harm was done.

    Nevertheless, the contamination incident was worrisome to nuclear physicist Frank von Hippel, a former Clinton administration official who is now co-director of Princeton University's Program on Science and Global Security.

    "I was surprised how high the radiation levels are," von Hippel told me. 

    So what's being done?

    Plant operators have been pumping cool seawater into the pressure vessels to replace the water that's being lost as steam, in an effort to keep the fuel rods from heating up further. They've added boric acid to the seawater, because boron suppresses the nuclear reaction and could accelerate the cooldown. Authorities were reluctant to turn to  this strategy because the seawater is so corrosive that it ruins the reactors for future power generation. But that's better than having the meltdown progress to an even worse stage.

    What about these hydrogen explosions?

    When the seawater hits the hot zirconium rods and uranium fuel, some of it is broken down into hydrogen and oxygen gas. Venting the steam allowed that hydrogen and oxygen to escape and build up between the pressure vessel and an outer structure that protects the reactor from the elements. At reactors No. 1 and No. 3, the hydrogen ignited, blowing the roof off the outer structure in each case. However, the pressure vessel and the steel containment shell remained intact. It's important to note that the hydrogen blast was not the result of any sort of atomic or "H-bomb" explosion, but was a purely chemical reaction.

    Is the situation getting worse?

    Yes. Authorities say another blast has been heard at reactor No. 2 at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant. Details are sketchy, but the plant's owner, Tokyo Electric Power Co., said the explosion occurred near the reactor's suppression pool, a water reservoir that's part of the cooling system. A government spokesman said the pool was damaged, and there was concern that the No. 2 containment shell may have been breached. "A leak of nuclear material is feared," The Associated Press quoted Shinji Kinjo, a spokesman for Japan's nuclear safety agency, as saying.

    Kinjo said radiation levels rose from 73 microsieverts before the blast to 11,900 microsieverts (11.9 millisieverts) three hours afterward. To put that figure in perspective, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission says that occupational exposure for adults working with radioactive material must be limited to 50 millisieverts per year.

    In a nationally televised statement, Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan said "the level seems very high, and there is still a very high risk of more radiation coming out." Kan told people living within 19 miles (30 kilometers) of the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex to stay indoors to avoid radiation sickness.

    AP also quoted Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano as saying that a fourth reactor at the complex was on fire and that more radiation had been released. "Now we are talking about levels that can damage human health. These are readings taken near the area where we believe the releases are happening. Far away, the levels should be lower," Edano said. Later, AP reported that the fire at reactor No. 4 was extinguished.

    What about the nuclear fuel stored at the site?

    The spent fuel rods at the Fukushima facility are stored in pools of water above the reactor. Plant operators have signaled that water levels were falling at reactor No. 1's storage pool, suggesting that the cooling system is failing. "It's on a slower fuse," von Hippel said, "but on the order of a week or so, it could boil down to the level of fuel."

    What's the best-case scenario?

    The seawater gambit keeps temperatures inside the pressure vessels under control for the next few days. During that time, the residual heat of radioactive decay dissipates, and operators no longer need to release steam from the vessels. Eventually, electrical power is restored to the cooling system, and each vessel's core can be removed. 

    What's the worst-case scenario?

    Authorities can't cool down the cores, and temperatures rise to the point that the uranium fuel melts into a mess on the bottom of the pressure vessel. The concrete-and-steel containment floor beneath the vessel has been built to contain a full core meltdown — but experts can't completely rule out the possibility of a breach that causes the highly radioactive material to escape into the environment.

    Right now, the situation at Fukushima Dai-ichi is analogous to the Three Mile Island incident of 1979, which involved a partial core meltdown and a release of radioactive gases — but no breach in the reactor vessel. "It's at least as bad as Three Mile Island," von Hippel said. But if the nuclear fuel breaks out of the vessel, the situation could turn into something more like the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident in Ukraine, which sparked fatal cases of radiation sickness and spread contamination across a wide swath of Europe.

    How long will this go on?

    Even under the best-case scenario, it will take years to clean up the mess. "When you're dealing with spent fuel, you don't put it in cool, dry casks until three years after the reaction has stopped," von Hippel said.

    More explanations of the nuclear situation:

    • Radiation health risk remains low, experts say
    • BoingBoing: Inside the 'black box' of nuclear power 
    • Brave New Climate: Fukushima accident explained
    • Scientific American: Beware the fear of nuclear ... FEAR!
    • The Great Beyond at Nature: Anatomy of a meltdown
    • Cosmic Log archive on the earthquake and tsunami

    Princeton physicist Frank von Hippel answers your questions about the nuclear situation in Japan during an online chat at 4:30 p.m. ET Tuesday, March 15. Click here to submit your questions in advance and participate in the chat.

    Have you found some particularly good explanations for what's going on, or are there some burning questions yet to be addressed? I've purposely stayed away from discussing the potential health risks in depth, because my colleague JoNel Aleccia is handling that important angle. But if you'd like to shed more light (rather than heat) on the situation at Fukushima or Japan's other stricken reactors, please feel free to add your comments below.

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    The one thing I don't understand is why there isn't a closed loop system at the plant to provide power for the pumps. IF the reactor is up and generating electricity why isn't some of that used for running the cooling pumps? It doesn't make sense that you have to rely on external power for running t …

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  • 14
    Mar
    2011
    3:03pm, EDT

    Is Japan's quake part of a cluster?

    With massive earthquakes rocking many of the countries bordering the Pacific Ocean's "ring of fire," Simon Winchester, the author of "A Crack in the Edge of the World," warns that the Golden's State's San Andreas fault could rupture.

    By John Roach, Contributing Writer, NBC News

    In the past year, massive earthquakes have rattled three corners of the Pacific plate — Chile, New Zealand, and Japan. Is the fourth corner of the plate — the west coast of North America — the next to go?

    The possibility is getting a serious look — and air time. Journalist Simon Winchester, who often covers geological history, wrote a piece speculating about a major quake along the west coast in the March 13 issue of Newsweek and spoke about it this morning on the Today show.

    According to Winchester, there is little doubt that earthquakes happen in clusters — a major event on one side of a tectonic plate is often followed weeks or months later by another major event on the far side of the plate.


    "It is as though the earth becomes like a great brass bell, which when struck by an enormous hammer blow on one side sets to vibrating and ringing from all over. Now there have been catastrophic events at three corners of the Pacific Plate — one in the northwest, on Friday; one in the southwest, last month; one in the southeast, last year," he writes in Newsweek.

    "That leaves just one corner unaffected — the northeast. And the fault line in the northeast of the Pacific Plate is the San Andreas Fault, underpinning the city of San Francisco."

    Speaking with Meredith Vieira on the Today show, Winchester also emphasized the potential of a massive rupture on the Cascadia fault, which runs off the coast from Northern California to British Columbia. If that fault were to rupture, "it would cause not just terrifying problems on land, it would also generate a tsunami and that's a big, big problem," he said.

    Earthquake clusters
    John Rundle
    , an expert on earthquake dynamics at the University of California at Davis, said evidence is mounting that major earthquakes do cluster in space and time, but that the New Zealand quakes were too small to count (magnitude 6.3 for Christchurch) in this current spate of events.

    Even taking out the New Zealand events, there are still four major earthquakes at least as big as magnitude 8.6 in the last seven years – the two events in Sumatra in 2004 and 2005, the Chilean earthquake in 2010, and Japan. This is unusual, Rundle said.

    "The question is, is it so unusual that these things are causal? We don't know that, but we used to believe that these things were independent and you would see random clustering, but this has become so pronounced that you have to think there might be some correlation to it," he told me today. "In fact most of our models that we use do show correlations of earthquake events."

    Rundle added that he believes that earthquakes are correlated and these big events are correlated. The question is, are they correlated because there is a surge in plate motion or do these things just align in spurts when looked at over spans of thousands of years?

    Regardless, he noted, that statistically speaking, faults along the west coast of North America are ripe to rupture. For example, the Cascadia fault ruptures about every 500 years. It last ruptured in 1700, an earthquake that triggered a tsunami that was felt clear across the ocean in Japan.

    The last big event on the San Andreas in southern California was in 1857 and historical analyses show they occur about every 160 years, "which would lead one to think we are pretty much due for one of these magnitude 7 plus events on Carrizo Plain, which could obviously grow into a magnitude 8 if we are unlucky," Rundle said.

    In Northern California, the biggest threat is on the Hayward fault, which last ruptured in 1868 and the recurrence interval is about 170 years. "So, we are definitely in the window where we could see a Hayward event," he noted.

    Examined in this light, the west coast is due for a major quake whether or not a major event on one side of a tectonic plate can trigger a major event on the other side. Rundle noted that according to his modeling, there is a correlation between the clustering activity and the periodicity of when faults rupture. "There is a definite association," he said.

    Aftershock concern
    The concept of clustering, however, remains controversial. Andrew Michael, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Menlo Park, California, addressed the question of whether one major earthquake triggers the next in a summary about the Chile quake. There, he wrote, "probably not … the global rate of earthquake energy release shows little, if any, difference between times when very large earthquakes have been common and when they have not."

    In an e-mail to me today, he said "[I] have revisited the calculations and the conclusions remain the same. There is no evidence of global large-earthquake clustering beyond localized aftershock sequences."

    These aftershock sequences are what have Rundle the most concerned. The Japan earthquake was a magnitude 9. According to aftershock analyses, there should be one magnitude 8 aftershock and for each magnitude 8 there should be ten magnitude 7 earthquakes. So far, the largest aftershock was 6.8.

    "Also, the aftershocks, appear to be migrating from the Sendai region down towards Tokyo. So I am extremely concerned that there may be a magnitude 8 earthquake in the relatively near future near Tokyo … and in that case you are talking about massive suffering," he said.

    More stories on earthquakes:

    • Big quake question: Are they getting worse?
    • Could big quake happen here? Yes
    • Big Chile quake sparks swarm of faraway quakes
    • Massive Chile quake may have set California shaking

     


    John Roach is a contributing writer for msnbc.com. Connect with the Cosmic Log community by hitting the "like" button on the Cosmic Log Facebook page or following msnbc.com's science editor, Alan Boyle, on Twitter (@b0yle).

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    Even as attractive as this hypothesis sounds, and the obvious increase in sales the author will have, there is a fundamentally flawed statement

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  • 12
    Mar
    2011
    9:13pm, EST

    How the quake shifted Japan

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    Images from NASA's Terra satellite show the coastline of Japan's Honshu island in the area around Sendai before and after Friday's earthquake. The left image is from Feb. 26, and the right image is from today. The images are color-coded to reflect surface composition rather than what the eye would see. The "Flood" label helps you gauge the extent of the flooding caused by the tsunami that followed the quake.

    By Alan Boyle, Science Editor, NBC News

    This week's earthquake caused the main island of Japan to shift as much as 13 feet to the east, seismologists say. That may sound like a shocker, but it's just one of the natural changes that come along with an 8.9-magnitude temblor — like the 1.8-microsecond speed-up of Earth's daily rotation and the 6.5-inch shift in Earth's axis.

    The eastward shift was documented by Japan's Geonet network of GPS monitoring stations, based in Tsukuba, said Ken Hudnut, a geophysicist at the U.S. Geological Survey's Earthquake Hazards Program in Pasadena, Calif. Similar shifts took place during last year's 8.8 earthquake off the Chilean coast, as well as the 9.1 earthquake near Sumatra that caused a disastrous tsunami in 2004.


    "It's the same phenomenon in all three cases," Hudnut said. The movement is linked to the release of the strain that builds up when one tectonic plate grinds against another in a subduction zone. 

    "What's going on is that the plate going down drags along with it the upper plate as strain is stored in between earthquakes," he explained. "When the earthquake occurs, the upper plate lurches eastward over the subducting plate. The oceanic plate that's going down is relatively rigid, but the upper plate is like a wedge of material that's more elastic. So picture that upper wedge as being almost like an accordion that's being compressed between the times of earthquakes. It's like a spring. You're loading up the spring between earthquakes — in other words, you're compressing the eastern edge of the spring toward the main island of Japan. The earthquake allows that material to spring out toward the east."

    Japan's network of 1,200 GPS monitoring stations, operated by the Geographical Survey Institute, shows a maximum springing-out effect of 13 feet (4 meters), with an average displacement of about 8 feet (2.5 meters) along a stretch measuring more than 300 miles (500 kilometers).

    Everything that links GPS readings to maps, ranging from driving directions to property records, will have to be changed as a result of the shift, Hudnut told me. "Their national network for property boundary definitions has been warped," he said in an e-mail. "For ships, the nautical charts will need revision due to changed water depths, too (of about 3 feet). Much of the coastline dropped by a few feet, too, we gather."

    We're starting to get pictures from space that document how the coastline has changed due to the earthquake and the tsunami. The NASA photos at the top of this posting show the coastline around the city of Sendai, which was one of the hardest-hit areas. The left photo was taken on Feb. 26 by the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer, or MODIS, aboard NASA's Terra satellite. The right photo was taken today by the same instrument. You can see that wide stretches of the coast are still flooded, in part because barriers erected at the coastline's edge are now keeping water in rather than keeping it out.

    Other satellite pictures, distributed by Google, provide a closer-in view of the devastation caused by the tsunami. In each of the before-and-after sets below, the left picture was taken before the earthquake and the right picture was taken afterward. We've put together an eye-opening slideshow of before-and-after imagery that gives you control of the slider. And you can check out Google's blog posting and this Picasa Web album for still more.

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    Satellite photos provide before-and-after views of Kamaishi, a coastal city north of Sendai in Japan.

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    These photos show before-and-after views of Japanese communities, with the left views taken before the earthquake and the right view taken today. The upper set shows Yuriagi and the lower set shows Yagawahama, both in Japan's hard-hit Miyagi prefecture.

    Update for 7:25 p.m. ET March 13: I've updated the figures for the change in the day's length and the position of Earth's axis to reflect fresh figures from Richard Gross, a geophysicist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

    More post-earthquake imagery:

    • Slideshow: Japan before and after the tsunami
    • Satellite photos show scope of Sendai damage
    • Japan's devastation documented by satellites
    • Slideshow: Japan struggles to recover from quake 

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    There have been many many devastating natural events through out history. Some how we forget that each time a new disaster happens. Pompeii was destroyed in 79AD but no one is talking about that any more. I do not mean to make light of Japan's struggles but we live on a tiny little shelf of land o …

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  • 11
    Mar
    2011
    9:29pm, EST

    How quake prediction works (or not)

    Japanese video shows the warning leading up to the quake.
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    By Alan Boyle, Science Editor, NBC News

    Japan has spent well more than $1 billion on earthquake prediction systems, including a network of more than 1,000 GPS-based sensors scattered around the country — and the payoff came today when Tokyo's residents were given up to a minute's warning that a Big One was on the way. That may not sound like much, but it's enough time for people to switch off their gas lines and get beneath a table or a door frame.

    "The system functioned well, because warnings were seen on television across the country," Hirohito Naito, a seismic expert at the Japan Meterological Agency, told AFP.

    The agency is in charge of quake preparedness as well as weather forecasting, and researchers have invested decades of effort into Japan's early-warning system. It's considered a model for the rest of the world, and U.S. researchers are adapting it for a system known as the California Integrated Seismic Network.


    The system capitalizes on the fact that a seismic event sends out two types of shock waves: primary or P-waves, which move up and down; and secondary or S-waves, which shake from side to side. The P-waves travel faster but are weaker, while the S-waves are slower but do more damage. When Japan's system picks up the P-waves, it calculates how far away the source of the shaking is and issues an alarm while the S-waves are still en route. A warning can be broadcast via TV, radio, cell phones and home alarms less than 10 seconds after the P-waves are detected.

    The early warning system isn't that useful for those who are close to the epicenter, because the S-waves come quickly behind the P-waves. But because Tokyo is about 230 miles away, that city's residents could have taken action as much as 80 seconds before the serious shaking began. As noted in this Technology Review report, that amount of time can give people a chance to stop a train, lower a crane, pull a car over to the side of the road, stop performing surgery in a hospital or get off an elevator in an office building.

    That's assuming that you get the alarm immediately, of course. Some reports from Japan suggested that the alarms provided somewhat less advance warning, in the range of 15 to 30 seconds. This webpage from the Japan Meteorological Agency explains the early-warning system in much more depth.

    Tsunami warnings worked
    It takes longer to issue a tsunami warning, because that's dependent on an analysis of wave propagation from an undersea seismic source. The Japanese government issued a local warning three minutes after the quake struck. Technology Review estimates that residents in the hardest-hit coastal areas had 15 minutes of warning, and that Tokyo would have had at least 40 minutes to prepare.

    Meanwhile, experts at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Tsunami Warning Center (in Hawaii) and West Coast/Alaska Tsunami Warning Center (in Alaska) issued their first alerts nine minutes after the earthquake. They used computer modeling as well as readings from ocean buoys to track the waves as they sped across the Pacific at jetliner speeds. The wave-monitoring system has been beefed up significantly since the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, which pointed up gaps in the network.

    Tsunami forecasters and emergency officials called for an evacuation of coastal areas in Hawaii, which were hit by walls of water measuring as much as 7 feet high.

    "We called this right," Gerard Fryer, a geophysicist for the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, told The Associated Press. "This evacuation was necessary. There's absolutely no question, this was the right thing to do."

    Longer-term predictions
    Could today's quake have been predicted days in advance rather than seconds in advance? In retrospect, maybe so: A 7.4-magnitude quake that hit Japan on Wednesday is now thought to be a foreshock heralding the bigger quake to come.

    Two years ago, researchers looked at the records from Japan's crustal movement sensors and determined that large quakes could be anticipated by analyzing the "pre-signals" in the seismic data.

    Then again, it's always easier to predict an event in retrospect. Five years ago, The Washington Post's Joel Achenbach wrote that Japanese geologists were sure the next Big One would take place southwest of Tokyo. Today's quake certainly qualifies as that Big One ... but it happened to the northeast, not the southwest.

    More about earthquake prediction:

    • 8.7 ideas for earthquake prediction
    • Quake technology buys time for Japan
    • Cosmic Log coverage of the Japan quake
    • Can't predict the Big One? Bring on the pets!
    • More from msnbc.com's Asia-Pacific news section

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    And just thing Republicans in congress want to cut funding for the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center. I think they have proven their importance today. If they try and push those cuts through after today, I think we need to superglue dunce caps to all the representatives that vote yes to cutting fundin …

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  • 11
    Mar
    2011
    12:40pm, EST

    Sites to help you with Japanese quake information

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    In this video image taken from Japan's NHK TV, a tsunami surge sweeps cars, boats and other debris against a building in Miyaku City, Iwate Prefecture, Japan Friday, March 11, 2011.

    By Suzanne Choney

    These sites can help you find more real-time information about the Japanese earthquake, people you might be looking for and other related information:

    • NTT DoCoMo is Japan's largest mobile phone operator. At this NTT DoCoMo site, you can enter the cell phone number of the person whose safety you're trying to confirm. 

    If you're trying to call, Nikkei.com notes that NTT DoCoMo has "imposed restrictions on up to 80 percentof voice calls, primarily to northeastern Japan and the greater Tokyo area. Cellular phone customers, however, are having difficulties placing voice calls to most areas nationwide." However, "Access to data communications, including its i-mode cell phone Internet service, has not been affected," according to the operator.

    • Facebook has set up a Japan Earthquake page for information about disaster relief. Also, Asahi Shimbun, Japan's biggest newspaper, has a Facebook page that is worth checking, as is the newspaper's English-version website.

    • On Twitter, the short messaging blog, use these hashtags, or identifiers, to learn more: #japan,  #prayforjapan and #tsunami.

    • The U.S. Department of State has a Japan Earthquake & Pacific Tsunami Web page with contact phone numbers. "For concerns about a specific U.S. citizen in Japan," the department recommends e-mailing to: JapanEmergencyUSC@state.gov, and for information about a "specific U.S. citizen in the Tsunami zone outside of Japan," e-mail to: PacificTsunamiUSC@state.gov.

    Here is the state department's page on Twitter and on Facebook. 

    • Google Crisis and Response page: As Rosa Golijan writes, this Web page "provides links to disaster resources, related news reports, and the Google Person Finder tool." On Friday, Google also added links to flight information for these airlines: American, ANA, Delta, JAL and United.

    • The American Red Cross also has a tool called "Safe and Well" on its website." Those in Japan can use the site to let loved ones know whether they're all right, and friends and family can also search the site for names of those they're looking for by clicking on the "search registrants" button.

    • The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Weather Service Pacific Tsunami Warning Center site has information related to tsunamis. Click on the "All Regions" tab for general information, or on the tabs for Hawaii, Indian Ocean or Caribbean Sea.

    • The U.K's Guardian is doing a live updates on its website of what is happening in Japan.

    And follow us on BreakingNews.com for the very latest. 

     More stories about the Japanese earthquake:

    • Google tool helps track and find Japan earthquake victims
    • American in Tokyo: 'Everything started shaking'
    • 8.9-magnitude earthquake off Japan is fifth largest on record worldwide

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    Thank you for this information, Technolog. Today many people will be using it.

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  • 11
    Mar
    2011
    1:04pm, EST

    Japan's earthquake: How to help

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    Neena Sasaki, 5, carries some of the family belongings from her home that was destroyed after the devastating earthquake and tsunami.

    By Suzanne Choney

    Several organizations are helping victims of the Japanese quake. Here's how you can help:

    • The American Red Cross. Using your cell phone, you can text-message donations of $10 to the agency. Text the letters REDCROSS to 90999 to make the $10 donation, or visit the organization's website.
    • The International Medical Corps is putting together relief teams, as well as supplies. The organization is in "contact with partners in Japan and other affected countries to assess needs and coordinate our activities,” said Nancy Aossey, IMC president, on its website. You can donate here. Or, you can text MED to 80888 to donate $10 to emergency relief efforts.
    • Save the Children is accepting donations for its Children's Emergency Fund. "We are extremely concerned for the welfare of children and their families who have been affected by the disaster. We stand ready to meet the needs of children who are always the most vulnerable in a disaster,' said Eiichi Sadamatsu of the organization in a statement. You can also text “JAPAN” or “TSUNAMI” to 20222 to donate $10.
    • GlobalGiving, based in Washington, D.C., is providing relief and emergency services to victims of the earthquake and tsunami. Text JAPAN to 50555 to donate $10.
    • The Salvation Army, which has had a presence in Japan since 1895. In Tokyo, the Salvation Army "opened its main building to help shelter commuters who were unable to reach home. They served hot drinks and packed meals," said a spokesperson. You can text JAPAN or QUAKE to 80888 to make a $10 donation to the Salvation Army’s relief efforts.
    • Mercy Corps  is "accepting donations to help survivors of Japan's earthquake and tsunami through our longstanding partner, Peace Winds Japan." Donations will go to meeting the "immediate and longer-term needs of the survivors," a spokesperson said. You can text “MERCY” to 25383 to donate $10.
    • World Vision, with a staff of 75 in Japan, is a Christian humanitarian organization focused on easing the emotional and psychological stress that children face during disasters. Visit the website to donate, or call 1-888-562-4453. You can text “4JAPAN” or “4TSUNAMI” to 20222 to donate $10.
    • Doctors Without Borders, an international group, already has teams working in Japan. The groups notes it is "drawing on unrestricted donations" given to it to fund its efforts, and "we are not accepting donations specifically earmarked for the recovery efforts in Japan. We greatly appreciate your generosity and encourage your support of our work. We will continue to post updates on our homepage, Facebook and Twitter as new information becomes available." To donate, call 1-888-392-0392.
    • Habitat for Humanity; donations accepted at website, or phone donations can be made by calling 1-800-HABITAT.
    • The U.S. Fund for UNICEF is raising funds to help children in Japan. Donations accepted at website, or by calling 1-800-367-5437.
    • AmeriCares has dispatched a disaster relief expert to the region to assess the health care needs and is prepared to send medicines, medical supplies and humanitarian aid as necessary. Phone number for donations: 203-658-9500.
    • International Rescue Committee, based in New York; Phone donations to: 1-877-733-8433. The organization is "dispatching IRC relief experts from our Thailand program to Japan to see how we can assist Japanese authorities in responding to the earthquake/tsunami disaster. We recognize Japan’s significant emergency response expertise, but will offer direct technical assistance and other emergency support."
    • Baptist World Alliance/Baptist World Aid. To donated by phone, call 703-790-8980.
    • American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, a humanitarian assistance organization that also helped in Haiti and in countries affected by the Indian Ocean tsunami. The relief group "worked in Japan before the American entrance into World War II when the organization helped support Jewish refugees — including renowned religious leaders and yeshiva scholars — in Kobe, Japan who fled Hitler’s Europe. Today, several thousand Jews live and work in Japan." Phone: 212-687-6200.
    • Catholic Relief Services is "providing assistance through our sister agency, Caritas Japan. CRS has programs in the Philippines and Indonesia and works with Caritas Oceania that is active in numerous islands in the Pacific that might be affected." For donations by phone, call 1-800-736-3467 from 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. ET.
    • Adventist Development and Relief Agency can be reached at 1-800-424-2372, or text the word SUPPORT to 85944 to make a donation.
    • Buddhist Tzu Chi Foundation, based in San Dimas, Calif., "has activated its Disaster Coordination Center in Tokyo ... Right now, Tzu Chi offices in Tokyo and Osaka, Japan sustained minor damages," but the two offices are open as service centers. To donate by phone, call 1-888-989-8244.

    Animal rescue
    There are animal rescue groups (and groups where animals help to rescue people) that are also involved. Among them:

    • The International Fund for Animal Welfare has information about efforts to save animals in Japan. To make a donation by phone, call 1-800-932-4329.
    • World Vets (veterinarians) offers veterinary aid around the world in collaboration with animal advocacy groups, veterinarians abroad, other governments and military organizations. The organization has a Japan Disaster Relief Web page where you can donate.
    • Animal Refuge Kansai (ARK) says it will accept care of as many quake-tsunami related homeless animals as it can. Donations can be made at the website using PayPal, and money contributed will be used specifically for that, the organization says.
    • The U.S.-based National Disaster Search Dog Foundation, which normally recruits rescue dogs and partners them with firefighters and other first-responders, has sent search teams to Japan. Call 1-888-459-4376 to donate, or visit the group's website.
    • The Japan Cat Network, which was started in 1993, is dedicated to helping Japan’s stray and abandoned cat population. It is also one of three groups that are part of Japan Earthquake Animal Rescue and Support, which includes HEART-Tokushima and Animal Friends Niigata. You can find the Japan Earthquake Animal Rescue and Support group on Facebook.

    Other efforts are underway:

    • The mGive Foundation, which helps with mobile donations, said these groups are also accepting text-based donations: Convoy of Hope, text TSUNAMI to 50555 to donate $10; World Relief Corp. of National Association of Evangelicals, text WAVE to 50555 to donate $10. "When prompted, mobile donors should reply with YES to confirm a one-time gift," the foundation says. "The $10 one-time donation will appear on the donor’s next mobile bill. All donations are tax deductible and receipts may be printed" from the mGive site. "Message and data rates may apply."
    • Facebook has a Disaster Relief page with lots of good information about organizations that are offering aid, and that you can help, in turn.
    • Microsoft has a Disaster Response Effort underway. "We are taking a number of steps, including ensuring the safety of our employees and their families and proactively offering customers, partners and local response agencies technical support to help ensure business continuity," the company said. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal.)

    Guidance for you
    To help you make decisions about donations, the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance offers tips on "Giving to Earthquake Relief Efforts in Japan." And another good website to use as a resource is Charity Navigator, a non-profit organization that has information on more than 5,000 charities and evaluates the groups' financial health. It is one gauge to go by.

    And while giving is good, beware of those out there who are not good and are trying to scam you by taking your money over the Internet and using e-mail. For more information, read "Tips to avoid Japanese earthquake phishing scams."

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    dude, get over it!  we are talking about saving lives here. When it comes to natural-disasters such as this one, our tax dollars can take a back-seat. We are all humans and I dont mind this country taking lead in helping others that have met such un-expected devastation. We blow more money on less  …

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  • 11
    Mar
    2011
    12:43pm, EST

    Tsunami waves put data centers at risk

    By Rosa Golijan

    Amazon, Salesforce and several other cloud service providers have data centers located in areas affected by the 8.9-magnitude earthquake, which struck the eastern coast of Japan on Friday. The initial quake and the resulting tsunami waves put those data centers at risk, but things appear to be functioning mostly fine so far.

    ZDNet reports that NTT Communications is one of the companies whose data centers were hit the hardest. The firm "lost its IP-VPN connection and was evaluating the building holding the data center."

    Amazon Web Services and Salesforce, on the other hand, are indicating that their data services in the Asia Pacific region are still up and running at this time. There appear to be no reports of other cloud-based data services going down.

    Unfortunately while cloud-based data services are holding strong, some communications services are suffering. MocoNews reports that the problem is caused by "severe congestion as millions people flocked to voice and data services within minutes of each other, downed cellular towers and power lines in key locations and disruptions to the back-end data centers that make the whole system run."

    It's mostly voice-based communication services which appear to be affected, so many providers seem to be recommending that individuals turn to text messages or other forms of communication in the mean time.

    Related story:

    Google tool helps track and find Japan earthquake victims

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    "several other cloud service providers" AKA things that have existed for 10+ years that due to ignorance of services are now called "CLOUD"

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  • 11
    Mar
    2011
    1:45pm, EST

    Could big quake happen here? Yes

    Dan Callister / Getty Images file

    Located just 50 miles off the coast, the 680-mile-long Cascadia fault has lain dormant for 300 years. When it wakes, it could trigger an earthquake and tsunami similar to the one that struck Japan today.

    By John Roach, Contributing Writer, NBC News

    As the world tunes in to the disaster following the earthquake and tsunami in Japan today — and with waves rattling nerves along the U.S. West Coast and Hawaii — a question rises to the fore: Could such a disaster happen here?

    The short answer is yes. It already has. Major quakes of a similar style rupture along the 680-mile-long Cascadia subduction zone, a fault that runs from Northern California to British Columbia, every few hundred years. They trigger tsunami waves reaching up to 15 feet high that hit the shore about 10 to 15 minutes later.


    The fault last ruptured in 1700 – a magnitude-9 event that sent tsunami waves crashing into Japan. Experts believe it is a matter of when, not if, the next one will happen, according to Brian Atwater, a geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey and the University of Washington and an expert on the 1700 event.

    "There's no reason to question the history here," he told me today.

    Recent computer simulations of a hypothetical magnitude-9 quake on the Cascadia subduction zone found that shaking could last two to five minutes, strong enough to collapse poorly constructed buildings and damage highways and bridges. Powerful tsunami waves could rush ashore minutes later, potentially devastating coastal communities.

    The threat is greatest along the northern part of the West Coast. Caltech seismologist Kate Huttontold MSNBC today that Southern California doesn’t have subduction zones like the Cascadia fault.

    According to calculations by Chris Goldfinger, a geologist at Oregon State University, there's an 80 percent chance that the portion of the fault off southern Oregon and Northern California would break in the next 50 years. The odds are lower — 27 percent for the same time period — for Washington state and Canada's Vancouver Island.

    "People try to compute these earthquake weather forecasts by taking into account 300 years have passed since the last one and the fault has been busy putting money in the bank to spend on the next earthquake," Atwater explained. "So the more time that passes, the better the car the fault can buy."

    Even though authorities have been aware of the risk for years, the Pacific Northwest is not adequately prepared, according to geotechnical engineer Yumei Wang of the Oregon Department of Geology and Mineral Industries.

    "People are in a really dangerous position," Wang told Discovery News in 2009. "This is going to happen, and it's going to have really bad ramifications unless we do something."

    She has proposed building a series of tsunami shelters up and down the coast. As well, work is ongoing to shore up schools, hospitals and other buildings. Similar efforts are under way in Seattle, Brian Gaff of the city's Office of Emergency Management, told the AP.

    Part of the problem is that scientific knowledge about the Cascadia subduction zone is way out in front of public policy, laws and building codes, Edward Wolf, a private consultant and writer in Oregon who works closely Wang, told me today.

    "It's analogous to climate change. The science is considerably ahead of public awareness and policy response," he said.

    NBC's George Lewis on California's quake preparedness.

    To date, attention has been put into mapping tsunami inundation zones, plotting evacuation routes and preparing signage to inform people about the risk. "But there are still some low-lying coastal areas with difficult access to evacuation that would be difficult to impossible to evacuate in the event of an earthquake," he said.

    Proposals such as Wang's for shelters that can withstand tsunami waves have been floated. Another idea is to construct large earthen mounds that are high enough and accessible enough to serve as a tsunami refuge in regions such as southwest Washington's Long Beach Peninsula. None of these proposals has been funded.

    Although the risk for an earthquake and tsunami like the one in Japan is very real for the West Coast, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that today's temblor will trigger a quake on the Cascadia subduction zone. But, as Atwater emphasized, "It's not a matter of if, but when, the next one will happen."

    Related stories:

    • Tsunami threat looms over Pacific Northwest
    • Pacific Northwest overdue for big one
    • Pacific Northwest at risk for a mega quake
    • Tsunami awes even the experts

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    "Could a big quake happen here? Yes" It's a shame such a question is even needed to be asked. As if, as Americans, we are somehow exempt from catastrophic natural disasters. I mean, yes ... we American's love to believe we are special little creatures. But, we are the same primate species occupying  …

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